Saturday, September 27, 2008

Made in China, Stay in China

Got milk? If you do, pray that it’s not from China. The Olympics are over, and its back to business in China’s manufacturing industry with the latest toxic milk scandal, which has killed four infants and poisoned around 54,000 Chinese, mostly children under the age of two. Twenty-two different dairy producers in China, Sanlu Group Co. being the biggest of them were found to have sold melamine laced dairy products to consumers. In Taiwan, 6.1 metric tons of imported poisonous milk powder has been removed from shelves, while in China over 7,000 metric tons of dairy products have been pulled from stores. What’s more disturbing is that the Sanlu Group was apparently receiving customer complaints about their dairy products as early as December of 2007. This has once again brought China’s food safety and quality control into serious question causing countries around the world to ban imports of Chinese milk products.

Melamine is a white powder that is used in industrial plastics-making. It is typically used in the manufacturing of floor tiles, formica, kitchenware, fertilizers and for the tanning of leathers. Due to the fact that melamine is nitrogen rich, when added to watered-down or below-standard milk, protein levels appear higher in standard quality tests. The problem is that melamine causes kidney stones and can even lead to kidney failure. Melamine was added because shrinking profit margins took precedence over public health, safety and worse yet, human life.

The Chinese government has responded in recent days with their typical song and dance. A few arrests have been made, and officials have been forced to resign in order to shift attention away from the government. The state controlled media (propaganda machine) has placed all the blame on the Sanlu Group Co. However, it’s interesting to note that Sanlu and many other leading companies involved in the scandal had been given inspection-free status by the government’s food safety watchdog. Chinese officials have tried to reassure a highly skeptical world that the problem is now under control. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, while speaking at the UN in New York, said the Chinese would use the crisis as a chance to overhaul safety controls. China will “take seriously supervision and inspections in every link of production, truly ensuring the interests of consumers,” Wen said.

The problem is it’s hard to take China seriously when you have a manufacturing track record as abysmal, fatal, as theirs. Just last year the world witnessed massive recalls with toothpaste laced with toxic diethylene glycol, contaminated seafood, faulty tires, lead-painted toys, and deadly pet food laced with none other than, melamine. When you add the latest toxic milk scandal to the list, it’s obvious that the interests and health of the consumers have never been of any concern to the Chinese.

So what has been the reaction from the KMT government in Taiwan? It can be described as slow, laughable, and worst of all, deadly for Taiwanese citizens. The KMT’s Department of Health (DOH) on Wednesday night, in a move that defies all sense and reason, actually loosened the food safety standard for melamine from 0 parts per million (ppm) to 2.5 ppm, meaning that imported Chinese food products to Taiwan can contain up to 2.5 ppm of deadly melamine. Even in China, pig feed must have below 2.0 ppm of melamine. Before we go any further, it must be repeated that melamine is an industrial strength fertilizer and plastics-making chemical. It is not fit whatsoever for human consumption. How can the KMT have the audacity to think that any sane person would voluntarily choose to ingest something that is used for plastics-making? Ma Ying Jeou and the KMT have completely lost their minds if they think Taiwanese people will stand for poison in their food. If the KMT want melamine in their food, they should ask China to ship the 7,000 metric tons of removed toxic dairy products to Taiwan so they can consume all of it.

The DOH will also send a delegation of experts from Taiwan to China in hopes to better understand the recent scandal. But honestly, what more is there to understand? The Chinese were putting poison in their milk and knowingly selling it to consumers. Premier Liu Chao-shiuan said on Tuesday one of the reasons for sending a delegation to China was to, “set up a better system of food safety inspection modeled on the US Food and Drug Administration.” Can someone please tell me why then, if Taiwan wants to model the US Food and Drug Administration, we are sending experts to China to examine Chinese food safety controls? The world has seen time and again that China obviously has no idea what it’s doing when it comes to quality control. The KMT needs to spend more time developing stricter and more effective quality controls here in Taiwan than it does worrying about what’s happening in China.

The best idea, sorry worst, from president, sorry mister, Ma Ying Jeou has to be his idea to setup a hotline with Beijing to ensure food safety and public health in Taiwan. Here’s the simplest way to ensure public health in Taiwan, don’t buy from China. Why does Taiwan need a hotline to Beijing just for food safety? Does Mr. Ma plan to have more contaminated food sent to Taiwan in the future? Or does he actually think that the next time China has another manufacturing scandal, and they will have another one, that someone in China is going to call first on the hotline and give him the heads up? Ma and the KMT have consistently shown their incompetence, disregard for Taiwan, and love for China ever since Ma took office. The Taiwanese people can no longer idly sit by while the KMT ruins this country. Taiwan’s future will be one that is made in Taiwan, not China.

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At 8:35 AM , Blogger Daphne said...

The first casuality in Ma's administration is Lin Fang-yu, who just resigned as Minister of Health. He may have been the head of NTU Hospital, but he has no public health background whatsoever. I knew that we were in trouble when he said that people could only pray in response to the enterovirus outbreak during the summer.

 
At 9:34 AM , Blogger Eva said...

I totally agree with you! It has made me so mad to see how the KMT has been dealing with this whole melamine situation. While all the other countries immediately banned milk products from China, Ma took the "wait-and-see" approach just because he doesn't want to point fingers at China! If he had a little child of his own drinking these products, would he be so irresponsible?! To him, the lives of Taiwanese people mean nothing! It's all about keeping up appearances--sending some stupid delegation to China when he should be concentrating efforts in Taiwan! He's such a disgrace!!!

 
At 12:43 PM , Anonymous Veronica said...

Hey eric, it's Veroica! GTCM at NCKU.Since the time you send me your blog address and then I keep watching your blog.I am very excited to see your new article which I am very worry about!We Taiwanese should be tough and decide our own future.We are a country, not a province of china.

 
At 2:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the protest on news today and I knew it was you the second I saw it.
Well done my friend.
I am proud of you for being a true Taiwanese.

b/r
Sam Lin

 
At 7:09 PM , Anonymous DocVic said...

看到你對中國張嗆聲
你太帥了!
真是台灣人的驕傲
希望能在25號大遊行跟你碰面

go go go Taiwan!

 
At 7:16 PM , Blogger Kuan-Ting said...

The KMT government just totally disappointed me and perhaps most of the Taiwanese... (Mr. Ma talks about Taiwan this... Taiwan that all the time before the election... but )I saw your courageous deed on TV today... I'm truely amazed by how patriotic a "Taiwanese youth" can actually be... I think Taiwanese students, and all the young people should speak up for our country "our Taiwan"...

you rock... don't give up!!!
We're NOT a part of China!!!

 
At 7:38 PM , Blogger 漢斯 said...

i don't know where to write on your bog so i write here...i'm just a university student who saw the news about your protesting and found out your blog address on TV...

oh man, you did a great job today in 張銘清's speech at 南藝大~
yeah of course taiwan is an independent country...not part of mainland china...few people or students have the brave to contest like you today...

 
At 8:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goodguy Eric! 好屌 ! 加油 !

 
At 8:20 PM , Blogger elise said...

Thank you so much for speaking up for Taiwanese people today! I was so excited when I saw your brave act in TaiYiDa on TV news. We can't be silent, we have to express our love toward our motherland Taiwan(like what you've done today;)) , and tell those Chinese, We are NEVER a part of them.

 
At 8:25 PM , Anonymous Kevin said...

Hey Eric, just saw your news on TV and that's how I found out your blog's URL. It's sad to see our government licking China's boots. It's great to hear voices like yours to be aired all over Taiwan!

 
At 8:45 PM , Anonymous Sharon said...

I am so impressive and excited about what you did today. Thanks for speaking up for us who really want to do the same thing to that CHINESE. HUG

 
At 8:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Eric,

u r the man with guts and dignity,
which is what this country is short of...

need to chat to u on someimportant issues, my msn: billionsofroses@hotmail.com

regards

Sam

 
At 9:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

you are amazing, and what you did today was soooo impressive!!!
I wish I were there supporting...

Do you have girl friend? lol
jUst kidding!!! XD

 
At 10:08 PM , Anonymous CLOWN said...

Still stuck in the historical event, such as 228? why not look forward to the present A-bian scandal and how to help Taiwan's future by taking other practical actions instead of doing some useless actions in front of the TV and dose such kind of protest action really help Taiwan? Or it simply revealed your idealistic and brainwashed thoughts by the DPP? Does Taiwan really have to be independent from China? That is not up to you, and if you really love Taiwan, you might consider to give your American citizenship and focus on other more helping ways instead of joining the 1025 meaningless parade, Think about why President Ma had such a hard time, IT IS BECAUSE DPP RUINED TAIWAN'S ECONOMY FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!

 
At 10:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello:
今天看新聞看到你耶
太棒了!!!
台灣就是台灣!不是中國的一部份!!
你做的太好了!!

我也是台南人
原來你也是阿
還是住在以前的"林百貨"旁邊

 
At 10:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Today ~~

We found a true hero of TAIWAN~~



He did a GREAT JOB for TAIWAN

against the oppression.



His voice breaks Taiwaneses’s

silence.



His action touches lot of

people’s hearts in particular

young ones.



YOU are the man ~~~ Eric ~~~




We believe One day ~~ TAIWAN will

be independent.



We ABSOLUTELY believe our dream

will come true.



YOU ARE NOT ALONE ~~

 
At 10:32 PM , Blogger sleeplessboy said...

To Clown, you are really a clown, you should really just put your energy on entertaining the kids, instead of making bias statement. You said that "IT IS BECAUSE DPP RUINED TAIWAN'S ECONOMY FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!" This statement is totally false. DPP did not make this happen, the greedy banker did. Not DPP, the global financial crisis will still occur even if KMT is in the off during the past 8 year. I wonder how much money will get stolen by them if they are in the office for the last 8 years.

To Eric:

Good writing, I am glade that you speak out.

 
At 10:44 PM , Anonymous Jon said...

Eric,
You are my man! I am proud of you!

 
At 10:53 PM , Anonymous CLOWN said...

TO Sleeplessboy: You really needed to get some sleep, it will help you to be more open-minded. I quote your statements:
"This statement is totally false. DPP did not make this happen, the greedy banker did. Not DPP, the global financial crisis will still occur even if KMT is in the off during the past 8 year." How can you say that when the DPP is the administrative party during the past 8 years? Aren't you just slapping your own mouth? BTW, all those crisis starts from a LOUSY government and GREEDY LEADER, the bankers were just his accompanies. Scandals won't occur simply because greedy bankers, it often involve government authorities. Now, just wait and see what will happen to the known "The son of Taiwan" and the Man who
"proclaimed that he loved Taiwan by transferring enormous amounts of money to his offshore accounts" He still have to face the court and justice. Well, He still insists on what he's done is all for Taiwan, then maybe he should make up a better lie.

 
At 11:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so excited when I saw your brave protest on news. Thanks for your speaking out!!! Just want to show my support :)

 
At 11:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

謝謝你及你朋友今天為了台灣的付出!! 大多數的台灣人是有奴隸性格, 1025為了台灣,為了家人自己,不為任何政黨,我和我朋友也會出來,
向你的勇氣致意!! 謝謝!! thans you ~~~

 
At 11:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

GJ

 
At 11:35 PM , Anonymous Jaelyn said...

you are really cool!
so proud of you!!
TAIWAN ROCKS!!!

 
At 11:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Eric:
I saw you on TV today, and thank you for standing out for every Taiwanese!!
YOU ROCK!!
God bless Taiwan!

Grace

 
At 11:51 PM , Blogger Katie said...

Hi Eric:
I graduated from Tsing Hua University 2 years ago. I love Taiwan so much as you do so that I took part in a national exam right after I graduated from college and wish that I could really do sth for my beloved country in the future as a government official. But after Mr. Ma was elected as our president, what he has done gradually ruined my dream for Taiwan. I am so sad about all his policy towards China, but I found no ways to express my anger. Until today, I saw your brave deeds in the news, I felt so touched that someone loves Taiwan so much as me. I am so thankful that you spoke out for Taiwanese people!!!
I really wish that there can be more and more young people like you cuz this country needs young people to fight for this beautiful island.
I am a local resident in Kaohsing, I am so proud that you expressed most of the southern people's feelings.
Thank you, I really appreciate your brave deed!!!
You are the hero of Taiwan!!

 
At 11:56 PM , Blogger 小小 said...

你超帥的~!!!謝謝你=P

 
At 11:58 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

只能說你的表現太棒了!台灣需要更多這樣的聲音!

 
At 12:04 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

T9鄉民支持你!
http://taiwan9.ning.com/

 
At 12:23 AM , Blogger Shohei Hamano said...

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At 12:24 AM , Blogger Shohei Hamano said...

Amazing! Thank you for voicing out for us here in Taiwan. We now realize we are not alone and we have more people supporting us everywhere. There will be goons like certain individuals who is leaving comments attacking your supporters or trying to divert the attention to a-bian! Everyone, please ignore them. They are goons and they were programmed to believe in the false value. Let's focus on the topic of Pro Taiwan Independence and not whatever craps the goons are trying to divert us too. Again, all of us here in TW thank you!

 
At 12:56 AM , Anonymous Mavis said...

HI~Eric (teacher),I am Mavis,you are such a courageous person! when I saw the protest image on news TV,I felt excited,few people do not have the brave to show our feeling like you,it's a big problem,hence we should unite our power together !!!

 
At 1:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

God job today!
I am so proud of you.

 
At 1:16 AM , Anonymous veronica said...

ERIC!!
I am so proud of being your friend.!
you are the HERO!

 
At 1:24 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

理想很重要,實踐更重要
本來還在猶豫的我,被你這一嗆...嗆的我1025非走上街不可了.

感謝你這一嗆,把我給嗆醒了.謝謝!!

樹!!

 
At 1:49 AM , Anonymous kennkokutarou said...

Jesus!

I think what you've done is totally inspiring!

Your my hero!
God I love you!

 
At 1:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

謝謝你喚醒台灣人 我們一起為台灣努力!讚啦!

 
At 2:04 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey! I heard what you did to 張銘清. GREAT JOB!! You've got guts! ^^ so proud of you!! Lots of pro-Taiwan blogs are complimenting you right now. You've made OUR voice heard!
GO TAIWAN!! <3

 
At 2:10 AM , Anonymous Cleo said...

Hey Eric,
I graduated from NCKU in 2005.
now I'm in my senior year of veterinary medicine at NCHU.

I saw what you did today on TV,
the reporter said that all four of you are students of NCKU, I felt so proud of you guys.
I found your blog at a forum called anti-media.tw,
just want to let you know that there's a lot of people feel the same way here,

"Taiwan is not a part of China!"

Cheers!!

 
At 4:40 AM , Anonymous TAIWAN- my country said...

hi eric. i am a high school student currently stuck in overseas. saw you in an online blog video. thanks so much! i was so pessimistic/worried about taiwan's future before this. am now so invigorated! lol, and decided to stay up whole night to study, so that in the near future i could contribute my parts too. wish i could join you guys on 25th!!!!!!!!!

 
At 4:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

God Bless Taiwan
Taiwan is going into growth!
God Bless Taiwan

 
At 5:00 AM , Anonymous TAIWAN- my country said...

agree with shohei hamano. but sorry, call me heartless, i cant tolerate non-congenital/voluntary brain deficiency.

fallacies abound in your argument, clown. let me tell you what, dude. you have allowed yourself getting brainwashed by chinese-owned media and proudly boasted about it. that’s not very wise.

if 1025(exercising citizen's political rights) is meaningless, then no country around the world should hold elections, becos they are meaningless, by your standard. as your nonsensical argument goes, referendums; people's voice; freedom of expression and all other characteristics of democracy- you name it- are thus meaningless. and ah-oh, your comment becomes meaningless. oops, did you just slap yourself, sadist?

yes, we need to be forward-looking. and with history as the guide. we have been pushed around by all sorts of people for too long - subordinated, sidelined bullied...(check your thesaurus for the endless list) - we must stand up and be our own masters NOW. to protect taiwanese from all these bullying, we need a country and a government that is for the TW people and by the TW people. this IS forward-looking. if you dont wish to be a taiwanese, then pack up and crawl your way to China and lick their boots. Chinese ministry of propaganda would enjoy admiring their pieces of work. and most probably, given their “kind” nature, welcome you with all hospitability and with their tainted milk and fried sliced human kidneys(if you are health-conscious, ask for boiled ones instead) oh wait, are you a taiwanese in the first place?


practical? if Ma and KMT has so much energy, trying all they can(while spending taxpayers' money for investigation, creating political turmoil which in turn hurts economy....etc) to stigmatise an ex-president, why dont they focus on saving the economy from the current dire straits. dont tell me "BECAUSE DPP RUINED TAIWAN'S ECONOMY FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!"(which is a historical event: smth you deem insignificant i thought?) what dont you try this sentence: BECAUSE. because KMT has RUINED everything, EVERYTHING in taiwan for the PAST 60 YEARS! And don’t tell me that KMT cant solve it because it’s a global problem. Fuck. Taiwan’s trade deficits and budget deficits are rocketing, unemployment are shooting up, stock market nosediving, Foreign Investment are flowing out like toilet’s flushing! Tell me, which Asian country( excluded Japan, which belongs to the Western economic bloc ) is performing as bad?

gosh. stop slapping yourself here and wake up now!

 
At 5:06 AM , Anonymous taiwan- my country said...

sorry eric, please delete my comment if you wish. it's too long.. and i was angry. yes. God bless Taiwan.

 
At 6:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You the man!!! So sad that you the only one who has balls to stand up against China.

Everybody just ignore Clown, he's a "blue ding ding", years of brainwashing by KMT can do that to you.

 
At 7:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi~~
不曉得你看得懂中文嗎?
雖然你是一個ABT,
但是你對台灣這塊土地的熱愛與付出,卻比我這個土生土長的台灣人多出千萬倍!
感謝你在台藝大的發聲!

THANK YOU!!

 
At 8:39 AM , Blogger Bassey said...

Thank God there is someone out there like you who aren't afraid to speak out and voice out their opinions. There are many ABT out there who are like you. Keep up the good work! We are with you.
"My People, My Country, My Indepence, My TAIWAN"

 
At 8:41 AM , Blogger Bassey said...

Thank God there is still people out there who aren't afraid to voice out their opinions. There are actually many ABT out there. Please keep at it. "My People, My Country, My Independence. My TAIWAN!"

 
At 8:50 AM , Blogger Spieler said...

在場大部分南藝大師生的表現,仿佛只是行禮如儀,絲毫未對曾多次傷害台灣的張銘清有任何批判的言行,如果少了這幾來自成大的抗議同學,位居阿扁老家官田的南藝大,可是成為共產黨高官張匪銘清來台得分的第一場所。南藝大在場「聆聽」演講並鼓掌的,不覺得汗顏嗎?

http://drspieler.blogspot.com/2008/10/eric.html

 
At 9:04 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

what u did for Taiwan as i saw on tv news report leaves a deep mark in my heart,thx for what u did for Taiwan and I wish I can do the same too.thx again,Taiwan warrior!

 
At 10:28 AM , Blogger Fiona said...

真的,阿明嗆聲這個新聞每看到幾次就鼻酸幾次!!!
怎麼會一個在美國出生的孩子這麼愛台灣,
啊在台灣住了這麼久的我們,卻越來越孬,
尤其是一樣在美國唸書的馬先生,
除了舔ㄚ共屁眼,連個屁也不敢吭一聲...
尤其聽說阿明第一次聽到228的故事內心很震撼,
ㄚ我們從小被狗民黨洗腦,根本是非不分還跟著罵228,
看到阿明這樣的少年,真的很感慨~
什麼時候台灣子民才能自在的生活著~
PS我看這輩子是不可能了,
台灣囡仔要不就為台灣獨立而打拼
要不就苟且當個中國人算了!!!
阿明,我們支持你!

 
At 10:38 AM , Blogger WK Chen said...

Hi, I was from NCKU too. I very much appreciate that you did a good job yesterday. Very impressive and fierce. It really doesn't matter if you are pan blue or pan green, the point is if we have the sense of the nationality.

 
At 10:50 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

sup Eric....

this is Tony from Tainan....had meet you recently in Noodle shop...along with DJ Jin....

just want to say JOB WELL DONE!^^

add me on MSN..if you got one

tony.trc@msa.hinet.net

~tony

 
At 10:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an oversea Taiwanese American, I have never thought myself to be in the position to stand up and walk toward the front to protest against Chinese communism. The reason being that I no longer lived in Taiwan and if no one in Taiwan is willing to stand up for the country and it's people, why should I? As I watched Eric on TV tonight, it gives me great pleasure and realization that the next generation of Taiwanese will not be complacent and simply just hand Taiwan to China. Frankly, why should Taiwan be a part of China? Why can't Taiwan be an independent nation and be a part of the world community. The shear opposition of the Chinese government in accepting Taiwan into the UN is a testiment of the communistic thinking and intolerance that are exhibited by the mainland Chinese community, whether it is in the United States, or perhaps in China, as I cannot comment since I never been there and do not wish to be there. I have to say that in fairness, not all mainland Chinese are communists nor do they all hold fundamental views that Taiwan need to reunify with China, but the majority do support such referendum and my question is WHY?! Today, as I watched Eric's thirty seconds worth of fame, I truly believe there's some hope that Taiwan may one day become independent as most of us hope it will. If everyone feels the same way, we need to unify ourselves and make our voices heard as Eric has done. I believe it's hardest to start a movement, but once the movement has started, it's much easier to build on the momentum.

Personally, I think those who wants to reunify with China should just pack up their bags and get the hell out of Taiwan and move back to China. If you don't like Taiwan, get the fuck out. If you love China, get a one-way ticket and go home. Simple really...

 
At 10:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Eric:
You just set up a good model for all Taiwanese. I am so proud of you. Good job!

 
At 11:02 AM , Anonymous 石小民 said...

I just want to tell you how I admire what you've done at Tainan National University of the Arts. You are the real Taiwanese with guts.

 
At 11:10 AM , Blogger K. Ho said...

Just wanna drop by & say hi.. and
dyamn.. on behalf of the whole nation, I would like to thank you for what you have contributed for this mother land of ours. Too bad I wasn't in the theater, or else I would've stood up and given you my greatest applause. Eric, The Son of Taiwan.

Cheers

 
At 11:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

反正你有美國護照啊
到時候台獨戰爭你可以帶美軍來
希望你不要到時候機票買了就走了

 
At 11:47 AM , Blogger antiby said...

你跟阿扁一樣都是台灣之子

 
At 12:00 PM , Anonymous sophia said...

你屌到爆
real man!

 
At 12:41 PM , Anonymous HCC said...

I saw you on the TV today, and I just want to say:
You don't represent me, nor do you represent the majority of the Taiwanese people. What you and your friends did in the Confucius temple were an embarrassment to the people of Taiwan, who are known for kindness and hospitality, not violence or extremism.

These petty acts are not acts of love toward Taiwan -- instead, people like you are no different from Hamas or the Tablian -- their love for their country only wrecks their country.

If you truly love Taiwan, as you claimed, I'd suggest you to behave like a rational person, instead of allowing the same old pan-green propaganda get to you. Knowing how to separate political b.s. from reality is the first step toward maturity, which is something that you (and the pan-green camp altogether) need right now.

 
At 12:45 PM , Blogger chen said...

Dear Eric:

I am a oversea doctoral student in Australia. I saw the news about you on the Internet.I really appreciate your protests yestesday. I admired your courage and great passion for Taiwan. Keep going! Taiwan is an independent country!

mimi

 
At 12:49 PM , Anonymous Mr. Otter said...

We all proud of you!!!

 
At 12:52 PM , Anonymous CLOWN said...

TO:HCC

I Totally agrees your points, The present pan-green supporters need to sit down and think about what they are actually supporting: I think they were blindsided by the DPP propaganda, how can you guys hate CHINA so much? Did you know that your acts today were no difference from mobs?

 
At 1:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Done!!!

 
At 1:18 PM , Blogger Usher said...

After 2008 election, I thought the spirit of Taiwan has faded away.

You are the Man!

 
At 1:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

GJ!!!

有GUTS!!

真男人!!!!

 
At 1:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

台灣人有很多種
有友善的 有和藹的 有幽默的
有邪惡的 有貪財的 有暴力的
看你是哪一種台灣人
我相信美國人也是有很多種的
看看你想當哪一種

 
At 1:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Man~
I say what you did to 張銘清 the other day. Just want to show my support and all Taiwanese should stand up for ourselves like you did

 
At 1:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

我相信不是每個台南人都是暴力的

我相信把張明清殺了 台灣還是沒辦法獨立的

若要獨立 在台灣獨立戰爭中 會需要殺更多人的

你是美國人 應該了解美國獨立戰爭也是有死人的

 
At 1:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI... it is spelled 'independent' not 'independant'

 
At 1:54 PM , Blogger Arnold said...

看起來很爽 在那裡叫囂
認為這是一個民主國家 所以可以如此 像是耍猴戲一般耍給 陸仔看 但是審慎思考 這樣的叫囂有個屁用? 全世界支持嗎 全世界看的見嗎?

毒奶粉 就是一個資本主義結構下生成的怪物 是西方社會荼毒開發中國家的最好例子 他們要求低價 結果中國只好變相亂搞 今天正好發生在中國 要是出產地在印度 你敢跑到印度去發飆嗎? 不敢的! 再說這五十年來難道台灣出口食品都十分安全嗎? 誰知道? 在說 台灣人既然這麼愛台灣 怎麼會進口大陸的東西呢 奶製品為什麼不到紐西蘭澳洲買 你學經濟的 你應該知道 就是錢的問題 賠錢的生意沒人做 管你是大陸什麼毒不毒的 我賺飽了在說 所以首當其衝的 你應該是去罵這些賤商 而不是秀給陸仔看 那個陸仔又沒強迫你買不是嗎?

對沒錯 台灣不是中國的一部分 台灣想進入聯合國與世界平起平坐 可是這個資本主義架構下 就是容不下台灣這樣的小國 以前台灣的存在對西方資本主義國家有一定的誘因 但市現在 西方國家直接跟中共交涉 台灣根本已經沒有存在的價值 這也許說的很難聽 可是這是事實 不是我們在這裡鬼吼鬼叫 沒有用的 按國際法 台灣根本無法獨立 台灣依然再聯合國內 (福爾摩沙) 中華民國也一直都在聯合國內 只是行使權是中華人民共和國 台灣想進聯合國 最好是改名 不能用台灣 也不能用福爾摩沙

在經濟面上 應該看要如何應對陸仔 如何共生 如何減少兩岸在政治上的紛爭 全市界都在與大陸接軌 我們卻因為無聊的民族思想想鎖國 那真是白痴中的白痴 民族思想害死歐美 不應該在21世紀之下 發生在台灣與中國

還有台灣政府做的很好了 澳洲紐西蘭政府根本沒有下什麼標準禁止中國奶製品進口 甚至問了相關部門 他們跟不還搞不太清楚 毒奶粉涉及有多廣 至於美國我建議你也問問相關部門 他們有禁止嗎?

 
At 2:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

感謝你為台灣發聲

除了敢在張銘清面前嗆聲以外

也感謝你用英文寫部落格,向外國朋友傳達台灣人真正的心聲

你是真正的台灣人!

 
At 2:50 PM , Blogger 小島 ケンタ said...

頑張ってください

 
At 3:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You did the good job ! We are not lonely .. Go Go Taiwn !

 
At 3:34 PM , Anonymous TW not province of China said...

to Eric,
Great job man. I also studied in NCKU and am proud of what you did..keep up the good work.

to Hcc:
Did you ever consider that if you were 'Chinese' in China this news would never had made it on TV.

to Clown:
I quote "sit down and think about what they are actually supporting", I think what Eric wanted to express although not in the way everyone agrees is best, is that Taiwan is a country of its own, we are stuck in this situation where we cannot be treated as equals when we speak up internationally or when we travel, people think you are from CHINA. If you travel at all you would know that most countries cannot distinguish the difference, which is why i believe adding the words Taiwan on the passport is very practical and yes it must have some Political propaganda BS behind, but for citizens its just the practicality that it serves.

Secondly: I quote "how can you guys hate CHINA so much?" i think we can never be forgiving enough to a country that always claims Taiwan is theirs when all they do is cut us down in any scenes around the world. How can YOU LOVE them so much is the question... And i do agree you can and are always welcome to defect to China if that is your wish.

 
At 3:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is my first time to visit blogs or sites of the kind. Quite a feeling to me honestly. You guys are all young Taiwanese, and appeared loving this country very much. That is good! And most of you act or talk like many Taiwanese often says-"爽就好“. So you all admire what Eric just did. You believe that is good for... for what?

Firstly, have you thought about why we should become another country (well, we are, so I mean a country with different name?). When we become a real independent country (with different name, again), what the good will be (爽就好?)? Or should we be part of China (comma, are you idiot)? Or should we be part of USA (if it is possible)? Or part of Japan? Or... After all of these "OR", please come back and think again - Why should we be independent with another new name? If you have no answer for this question, I suggest you open your eyes and think harder!

You are good! Because you are all pure and idealistic (assume the ones behind these names are real)! But with what you all said here, I don't see any clue why Taiwan can win in this battle (with 1025?). Or why should we win? You will never win before you see thru the situation...

 
At 3:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sigh, will you stay in Taiwan with us all if someday Mainland China use nuclear weapon to Taiwan? If you want to be a hero, try to be everyone's, not only yourself.

 
At 4:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric, I am proud of you, too.

張先生到台灣深綠地盤,尤其是靠近阿扁故鄉,頗有為陳雲林探路的味道.相信陳來台時會對南部深綠民眾多所著墨,統戰一番.

話說回來,中國如果經濟強盛,政治民主(譬如修改黨綱,全民選舉領導人),重視人權,台灣人還會拒中國於門外嗎?

 
At 4:06 PM , Blogger steveguo7 said...

Very proud of what you did on 10/20, too bad I'm not in Taiwan or else I would definitely be protesting next to you. Some people in Taiwan should be ashamed of themselves when they see how much you would do to show your Taiwanese love. Mad props, and keep it up!

 
At 4:07 PM , Anonymous JAME said...

加油,正港的台灣人

 
At 4:33 PM , Anonymous 小芭蕉 said...

You are so brave.Cool.

For Taiwan go go go!

my blog:
http://blog.228.net.tw/tda

 
At 4:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey mate, its good to hear that a youth Taiwanese still willing to stand out to express his thought about Taiwan's identity. But I think it is enough of the street riot way for now and do something more progressive. I think both KMT and DDP are old and out of date, one lost its identity after finding that no one on the island want to "return" to china and another stuck in the "election game" looking harder to the empty name of Taiwanese independent rather than gaining support from international community. Taiwan has already stuck in this troubled shallow water for nearly ten years and no one's being able to stand out to make a difference.

If you really want to make a difference, try more effort to link all the clubs around Taiwanese universities make conference on researching all the policies they are doing and propose better ones if you guys can. Form a shadow parliament and kick all those cunts out of Taiwanese politic. Taiwan's enough of empty talks and we need someone with more wisdom to encounter all the international affairs not just say " f*ck you china" and can't do anything to it other than war. We need more strength to beat them and and someone with wisdom is what we need...

Sean

 
At 4:37 PM , Anonymous Eric Miu said...

我只能對閣下這位ABT(America Born Taiwanese)表明一段非常現實的內容。

閣下應該譴責全世界資本家與廠家把工場搬往沒有基本道德標準的中國大陸來生產貨品。這些外國資本家與廠家為了減低生產成本(Cost of Production)而把生產工場搬往中國大陸,閣下認為他們是否需要負起大部份責任??

另外,我想閣下有沒有看過美國與臺灣的《美臺關係法》、中國大陸與美國的《三個聯合公報》??自從一九七一年起中華民國退出聯合國後,聯合國有沒有再承認稱為中華民國臺灣的國家??閣下是否知道經濟邊緣化的臺灣已經缺乏討價還價的能力??

在現時階段,本人也不會同意專政獨裁的中國大陸與臺灣談論任何政治問題。假如中國大陸能夠改變一黨專政獨裁的本質,也許大部份臺灣人考慮會修正拒絕與中國大陸談論政治議題的想法。

Eric Miu

 
At 4:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

給3:34pm留言的人,即然你不明白為何要使用台灣名義獨立,
,那就明白的告訴你,因為就是要有別於被共產黨所統治的中
國,一個殘暴毫無人權可言的國家,從文化大革命,六四天安
門事件,屠殺藏民...等等等歷歷在目,甚至還把飛彈對準台灣
,每件惡行都有憑有據...光這些理由就足夠台灣艱定守護寶貴
的民主自由!就搞不清楚台灣內部竟有人吃著台灣米還跟殘暴
的中國共產黨裏應外合!?

希望十月廿五那天所有愛護民主自由的台灣人都能站出來..

也懇求喜歡共產主義的人滾出台灣吧!

 
At 4:51 PM , Blogger 奶神 said...

Hi Eric,

Please join PLURK
It's kinda like twitter.
There are many Pro-Taiwan friends in there.

This is my plurk page
http://www.plurk.com/user/twnathan

This is my blogger
http://twnathan.blogspot.com

BTW, can you read Chinese characters?

 
At 4:58 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

BTW mate, I'm born and grown in Tainan city. NCKU used to be my first preference but now I'm studying overseas. Please don't let the people of Tainan down. Tainan is always being the most influential city in politics and riot is not our way. If you really love the country, action and show the world what you got.

Sean

 
At 4:59 PM , Blogger 大雄 said...

你的表現蠻搶眼的~也很有熱血青年的帥氣~

倒是想聽聽你對張銘清被人推倒在地,有怎樣的看法?

 
At 5:07 PM , Anonymous CLOWN said...

給4:48分的人:

拜託.都西元幾年了還要扯到64.人家都改革開放並且經濟起飛了. 現在他們也不用用武力侵犯台灣了拉! 他們會用武力也還不是因為有人愛搞台獨? 維持現狀不好嗎? 兩岸共生不好嗎? 你走向極端對岸當然也動武. 經濟起飛的對岸. 現在他們根本看不上台灣好不好!生活在這個時代中.不與中國合作未來一定沒有前途!這也是為什麼全世界+台灣各大企業都很積極往大陸發展.你看看那些號稱根留台灣的企業有多少還能存活? 一昧的仇視對岸跟盲目的本土主義跟花時間去參加1025這種對台灣沒有實質幫助的作秀活動還不如在工作崗位上努力打拼來的實在. DPP只會操作群眾意識. 以毒奶粉來說好了. DPP有提供有麼正面的建議嗎? 我看都只有在罵人而已. 台灣就是去推倒我們的客人嗎? 我看大陸觀光客看到這種畫面也不敢來了.到時候看誰還敢說大陸觀光客都沒有來! 就是有這種濫用自由的人才會有這種蠢事鬧上國際版面.

 
At 5:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

給4:48pm留言的人,在台灣以“台灣“名義獨立之前,台灣(或者中華名國,whatever)是否和大陸就沒有差別?Think harder before you are truly convinced!

-3:34pm留言的人

 
At 5:14 PM , Anonymous Laney said...

阿明兄,有你這樣的台灣人,
在1025那天,我才有勇氣去參加大遊行!
雖然我週遭很多挺藍朋友都很排斥1025遊行,
但是我認為,他們都搞錯方向了,
今天會有1025,目的並不是藍綠對立,
而是台灣人決定要替台灣人發聲!
我相信一定有許多藍色支持者也會到場支持台灣國這個盛大的遊行!!
那些批評你的人,請你不要理他們!
因為他們不懂真正台灣人到底要的是什麼!
我們台灣國不想被打壓!!
我們台灣的領導人馬英九沒種帶領我們前往隊的方向,
我們就得自己來替自己發聲!!

 
At 5:22 PM , Blogger Aries said...

hello~

we will in Taipei on 10/25,
and around 景福門
and wear block T-shirt, write "拜台灣神"

see you and go for Taiwan together
^o^

 
At 5:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really admire your courage in sticking what you believe. By seeing you stepping out yesterday that really eases my pessimism for Taiwan's future. Young man, great job! Let's work altogether!!!

 
At 5:38 PM , Blogger Felix said...

hey, you are my hero! thanks what you did for taiwan yesterday! i would like to join you on this saturday!

 
At 5:41 PM , Anonymous Simon said...

Thumbs up Eric. Your dream is our dream. Let's working together and fighting for our motherland, Taiwan.

Defend Our Great and Wise Predecessors of Taiwan, Be an Angel of Taiwan!

 
At 5:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

給5:07 PM 用你的邏輯..搞台獨還不是因為有人愛用武力犯台無人性,都西元幾年了還在用野蠻兇殘手斷殺害藏民鏟除異己...在今天所謂的"共黨客人"被推倒前..截至今天為止"陸客"來了幾人了啊?

 
At 5:56 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

回5:07 PM 怎麼會沒差別,一個是毫無人權的共產國家,一個是自由民主的國家.

 
At 6:27 PM , Blogger Kuan-Ting said...

大陸人一昧的以為支持台灣獨立的只是"少數激進份子"... 而和大多數台灣人的想法背道而馳,我覺得台灣人不能再噤著不出聲了!!! 一定要一起站來讓陳雲林先生了解"真正大多數"台灣人的想法!!!說出什麼"沒有台獨就沒有戰爭"的人真是太過分了!!!

 
At 6:52 PM , Anonymous 1025 said...

To Eric Miu:難道你不知道一個國家的政策是可以控制進出口的嗎? 歐盟很早就禁止進口中國的乳製品.. only our innocent, fragile Ma government can tolerate such irresponsible behaviour from China..
CHINA OWES TAIWAN AN APOLOGY!
"no more 三聚輕氨, 哇沒愛死啦" (borrowed from Eric)


To Clown: 說到開放大陸觀光.. i feel really shame of it.. 你沒發現政府以經不再吹耀how good is this policy? 商業生機沒有..養蚊子的直航班機很多啦.

 
At 7:05 PM , Anonymous Longagofaraway said...

Hi Eric,

I was all tears when I saw your protest yesterday. You were really brave and effective. You have spoken out for me and for every Taiwanese. Yes, make the world hear us. Loud and clear:

“Taiwan is NOT part of China.”

Pro-Taiwan IS pro human rights.

Salute to you, Eric. Thank you for what you have done for us. I am so proud of you. You are the coolest of all!

 
At 7:38 PM , Anonymous CLOWN said...

對阿.不只大陸觀光客不敢來. 我看連美國.日本觀光客看到這則新聞都不敢來了. 最讓人不齒的是: 還有DPP人直言張銘清是"敵人"? 還堅持不道歉? 台灣真得會被不理性的人搞垮! 看看你們口中最愛台灣的阿扁啊! 愛台灣愛到連勞跑基金都準備好了~還要硬ㄠ是為了台獨~我看就用這筆基金去買座小島.安排台獨人士一起去那邊建台灣國阿!

 
At 7:44 PM , Anonymous Jas said...

well done we need more 'true' Taiwanese people like you!

 
At 7:47 PM , Anonymous kannkokutarou said...

to CLOWN, you're really a f_cking clown.

go home and f_ck yourself alright?

 
At 8:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

親愛的張同學,想讓你們知道,你們的行為感動了很多台灣人。雖然當時只有你們兩個人,但其實有很多台灣人和你們站在一起。It's a long way to go. We are not alone.

加油!!!

 
At 8:44 PM , Blogger Skytrax said...

I see your behavior on TV,you are so great!! As a Taiwanese,we should let the whole world know Taiwan is NOT belonging to China,the symble of evil.I'll always on your side!!

 
At 8:51 PM , Anonymous Greenlite said...

HEY GOOD STUFF MAN!!

TAIWAN NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU! HOPE U CAN KEEP LEADING THE WAY IN THE UPCOMING SERIES OF RALLIES, AS UR PRESENCE INSPIRES OTHER TW PPL TO JOIN BATTLE!

AND PLZ LET TINZA(TAIWANESE IN NZ ASSOCIATION-tinza228@hotmail.com) KNOW IF U R COMING TO NZ, WE WILL DO A BIG WELCOME4U^^

 
At 8:59 PM , Blogger 奶神 said...

Anonymous CLOWN said...

給4:48分的人:

拜託.都西元幾年了還要扯到64.人家都改革開放並且經濟起飛了.
-->你確定?

現在他們也不用用武力侵犯台灣了拉!
-->反分裂法訂假的?

他們會用武力也還不是因為有人愛搞台獨?-->台灣不屬於中國,不能搞台獨嗎?

維持現狀不好嗎?
--->現在有維持現狀嗎?

兩岸共生不好嗎?
--?你在哪裡看到共生?

你走向極端對岸當然也動武. 經濟起飛的對岸. 現在他們根本看不上台灣好不好!-->你大概不知道中國還有上億的窮人吧


生活在這個時代中.不與中國合作未來一定沒有前途!這也是為什麼全世界+台灣各大企業都很積極往大陸發展.你看看那些號稱根留台灣的企業有多少還能存活? -->薪資問題,現在多少人跑到越南了?

 
At 9:08 PM , Anonymous Infection said...

感謝阿明為台灣做的~
支持阿明
支持台灣獨立!!

 
At 9:22 PM , Anonymous CLOWN said...

TO: kannkokutarou:
Ur words just showed your level of intelligence.

 
At 9:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric你真的太棒了
台灣獨立萬歲
台灣國萬歲

 
At 9:46 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to clown ,建議你還是回"馬"戲當個盡職的小丑吧,否則就有辱clown這個稱謂,如果是真的那麼關心經濟,建議你跟著"馬"戲團多買幾雙皮鞋吧..不要在這裏貽笑大方!

說什麼他們會用武力也還不是因為有人愛搞台獨?那你媽會被rape還不是因為她愛喊救命.. idiot

 
At 9:51 PM , Anonymous kennkokutarou said...

to clown

thanks for your bullshit.
And you're still an asshole!

 
At 10:19 PM , Anonymous james said...

加油

 
At 10:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next time, make sure you do what you did in front of all the travelers from China. Next time, make sure you do what you did when you visit China. Next time, make sure you do what you did whenever you're dealing with people from China.

I dare you!!! If you dare and you do, I will earn my respect. So far, I just think you are immature and lack of professionalism.

Don't give me that "freedom of speech" crap. We are talking about basic professionalism and respect here. When a person is giving a speech, you respect him/her. Regardless you agree with him/her or not, you bring your protest and opinions "outside" afterward.

I agree; Taiwan is not part of China. We're an independent country and political system. But what you did, wasn't helping.

 
At 10:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am an international graduate student in the United States. I am from Tainan City,Taiwan.I am really proud of being Taiwanese. I disagree what KMT party did. However, it doesn't mean I surport DPP. China is getting to have great improvements on their society,how about Taiwan? Does each party officer in Taiwan really want make Taiwan better, not for himeself/herself better? Taiwan needs to have a big change in our society's value.

Chingwen

 
At 10:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

dude good job

 
At 11:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

you speak like a clown, act as a clown, just like DPP and its dirty supporters...

 
At 11:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

wish the new taiwan nation could be born sooner with the newly established pool of funding "contributed" by A-bien and his family, hahaha

 
At 11:21 PM , Anonymous 墨綠 said...

太酷了

你是真正的台灣男子漢!!!

因為有你台灣更好

加油! 加油! 加油!

 
At 11:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric、you are the best!!!

 
At 11:28 PM , Anonymous Steven said...

To Eric,

Good job!! I and my many friends are going to join the march in Oct. 25. You won't be alone on this way.

 
At 11:39 PM , Anonymous Seedig Bale said...

TO clown
"拜託.都西元幾年了還要扯到64.人家都改革開放並且經濟起飛了."
開放和經濟起飛跟六四何干?如果那些坦克履帶下血肉模糊的殘肢破體是我的親人的話我是永遠也忘不了這個日子~
"現在他們也不用用武力侵犯台灣了拉!"那些飛彈都是裝飾品罷了~
"他們會用武力也還不是因為有人愛搞台獨?"
人民上街頭還不是因為有人愛搞統一?
"維持現狀不好嗎?"
維持現狀當然OK~可惜那已經是中國馬當選台灣區長前的過去式了~
"兩岸共生不好嗎? 你走向極端對岸當然也動武"統獨是兩個極端~
獨立了是共產黨動武
統一了的話~動武的將會是台灣人
為了這個國家~終究是要一戰
輸也要輸得值得~輸的漂亮~
生作台灣人
死化台灣魂

 
At 12:13 AM , Blogger Haitien said...

From one ABT to another: Good work!

 
At 1:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Eric,
Whatever you did needs great courage! We need more courage and solidarity to stand out till Taiwan’s victory!

 
At 1:15 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not a ABT, but came to the US when i was little and have spent most of life in the US. My parents told me about you've done in taiwan yesterday and this website of yours last night, and I must come here to show you some support, and if we were there, we would've joined you as well. Just so you know, I am, too, very tired of the chinese calling me "chinese, and you are one of us", it's totally BS...and YES, when I was younger, my parents, aunts and uncles, all have told me about the 228 massacre incident in Formosa, but they also told me that this topic was forbiden and couldn't be taught or even be spoken of in Taiwan...anyway, I had to learn and gather all the historical information via my own research in the US...sort of like you did, and the more facts I've learnt, the sadder I got...

I know there are gonna be some pro-china ppl coming onto your site and leave crazy, nonsense comments before they leave, but please don't ever get discouraged by their stupid, uneducated comments, just knowing you are doing this for a good cause and for the land we all love.

all in all, well done! and im sure most of the Taiwanese are very proud of you, if not all...and thanks very much for speaking up and standing up for Taiwan in front of the chinese MoFos.

Again, many thanks...
A proud Formosan fellow

 
At 1:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more thing, I have many friends who are ABTs as well, but they all have told me that they were somewhat dissed when they were in Taiwan...only because they weren't borned in Taiwan like the rest of the people who live there..

so here, I gotta say to all Taiwanese and to the people who visit your site..

ABTs love Taiwan just as much as you do, recognize Taiwan as much as you do…if not more…so don’t ever doubt their love for Taiwan!!!

 
At 1:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Little" Chang protested "Big" Chang = "Small" Taiwan fight "Huge" China. This is we call " Taiwan Spirit" I think your parents are so lucky to have brave and decent son and I do believe they are also very proud of you.

You said: "Fight for the Right" This is not only the hero can do but also every Taiwanese who identify this land.

For years experience I realized there is no chance to make money in China so as our business. The nation, the leaders and the Chinese are staring at your doing, when you have the profit, they come to you for the tax or bullying you for self benefit.

Most of worthless politicos think "Huge China" is the country glittering with gold and always convince us must get closely with this great country, otherwise, boat of "little Taiwan" is going to sink in the near furture, but finally not a piece we can pick up!

Many famous economical scholars said China will replace America to be the most powerful country soon.
Do you think American will choose to be the part of China? If they no, Japan no, Singapore no...Why Taiwan yes???

I have three children and live in China right now, however I teach them never lose " Taiwan Spirit" and forget they are the very very special "Taiwanese".

Here I am mourning the death of Mr. Wang Yung-Ching who is one of " Taiwan Spirit".

 
At 4:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

kudos to you! my mom told me about your protest today. GO BLUE!! GO TAIWAN!!
cheers from ann arbor =)

 
At 4:12 AM , Anonymous longliveROC said...

I'd have to say that I agree with HCC and Clown. As an American-born Taiwanese, I feel that what Eric did could in fact be hurting Taiwan. Zhang came to Tainan to exchange solely on "educational grounds." He did not represent the Red China government in any way during this trip. Many of our mainland friends are friendly people. And many, if not most, desire and look up to the democracy and freedom in Taiwan. I felt that what Zhang said actually gave us a slap in the face. He simply said "it was a new experience" for him because of Taiwan's freedom and democracy. However, before we express our feelings and opinions, shouldn't we also pay the same respect that Zhang has done for us so far? He never initiated any fights, and he called for embracing different ideals.
As an American-born Taiwanese, I am grateful of the ROC government that protected the Taiwan island and some offshore islands from the Red China. I am truly grateful that we are ruled by the government of the ROC, and I do hope we live up to our ideals. Maybe one day, we can prove to the mainlanders that maybe there's another China (Republic of China/ROC) that they can love more (than their PR China)!

 
At 4:22 AM , Blogger CF said...

在美國十多年, 最好笑的就是每每看到一堆假愛台人士只敢在美國對中國嗆聲, 自己卻巴著自己的美國護照或綠卡不放.

真的愛台,不要只敢嗆聲,
建議那麼愛出鋒頭的您直接將美國護照剪了,向內政部出入國移民署登記歸化成為台灣(中華民國公民),用實際的兵役義務實踐,表明就算台灣真的要獨立,需要背水一戰,你也願意加入.

您,有這個勇氣嗎? 美 國 人?

 
At 4:31 AM , Blogger CF said...

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At 4:33 AM , Blogger CF said...

補充一句,
Made in China, Stay in China.

Made in USA, Stay in USA.

台灣的內政需要一個"外國人"來干預的話,
台灣的主體性豈不同樣被污衊?

I think it's very sarcastic for people like you to tell us how we or our government should rule our country.

4:31 AM

 
At 6:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To longliveROC - The Gov't of ROC had also murdered tens and thousands of people back in late 1940s, and still lying about what they did..and you don't sound like a ABT...you are a ABC - American Born Chinese, and there's a huge difference between ABT and ABC, and clearly, your comment has proven that you are a ABC.

To cf - you have been to the US for over a decade, and I am sure you have a "green card" or US citizenship as well, what makes you different? your comment is nothing but simply hypocritical, and by far, does serving the military really equal to true loyalty to your country? or just a process to brainwash your way of thinking? I think what Eric did was more than patriotic, and more than most of you would ever do in your life, and 勇氣? Eric definitely has it in my eyes, he's got the ball to confront the 中國人, do you really have the ball to do what he did? I don't think so...in which that makes you the coward - 懦夫 in my eye... and who the f are you calling Eric外國人? Your district governor Ma is a hong kong, china born foreigner, and by using your logic, it is sarcastic by having Ma as the president then? correct? so your logic makes no sense at all, but that doesn't matter, it only matters as he does not appreciate this place where he grew up at nor any love whatsoever for this land. Throughout the Taiwanese history, there were many 外國人 who loved Taiwan, even to-date, there are many 外國人 who love Taiwan, and perhaps more than most of the people in Taiwan. For your information, Dr. George Leslie Mackay (馬偕), a Canadian Med Doc who spent most of his life and died in Formosa and was buried in Formosa, and his tomb is still there today. And he's just one of the examples, there are many to list...who were japanese, american, dutch, etc., and they established hospitals, orphanages, etc. for the greater good of Taiwan..all in all, ASK YOURSELF! what have you done for this place that has made you a better person and a better 本國人? so you could judge "外國人" and their love for this land? You've done absolutely NOTHING for Taiwan! Moreover, it's proven that Ma had green card, his children are american citizens, and did he even serve in the military?! yeah-f*ing-right! so don't be ridiculous to judge people with your stupid logic, it only matters with their heart and love, not because of their military record or all that nonsense, and even though Eric doesn't have all that by your "qualification or standard" of 本國人, he's more than that, at least being a 勇敢的臺灣人, way beyond and more than your 假臺灣馬 by far.

Again, ABTs love Taiwan just as much as you do, recognize Taiwan as much as you do…if not more…so don’t ever doubt or judge their love for Taiwan!!! 記得, 叫ABT-外國人和當外國人叫臺灣人-中國人, 那不好的, 不被認定的感覺是同樣的!

Long Live Formosa!

 
At 6:39 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To HCC, you are a stupid a$$..GET YOUR FACT STRAIGHT! Eric did nothing but holding a banner and saying the truth in front of the chinese envoy, and he did it at his school where the conference was held at. He was not even there in the chinese temple, he's got nothing to do with that! duh! Think before you speak...

 
At 9:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

新一代的台灣英雄!
支持也感謝您為了我們台灣所做的一切!
希望您這樣的精神可以一直持續下去。
也希望因為此事件,能讓更多的台灣年青人硬起來,站出來!
就算我們沒辦法真正獨立也要把我們的心聲大聲的說出來!

 
At 10:23 AM , Blogger jolen said...

What happen here? Support Taiwan!

 
At 10:27 AM , Anonymous 阿元 said...

你的勇氣讓我非常欽佩,讚!!
台灣有你真好!!

 
At 10:41 AM , Anonymous KATE said...

TO cf:
馬英九也說他愛台灣啊,你先叫他把綠卡剪掉,還有叫他二個寶貝女兒放棄公民,再來教別人怎麼做吧.身為一個總統,只會打嘴炮,如何信服於民.要刮別人的鬍子前,先把自己的雜毛刮乾淨!

 
At 10:45 AM , Anonymous KATE said...

TO cf:
當你要批評一個人時,先摸清對方的底.Eric有中華民國國籍耶,跟馬英九的女兒一樣是雙重國籍.台灣有很多人都雙重國籍啊,怎不怪政策不好,更重要的是很多政客也雙重國籍,你怎麼不去講,二套標準,沒資格!

 
At 11:02 AM , Blogger Joseph said...

Mann....
I'm proud of you
I was born in Tainan
Actually, your house is near my grandparent's home

I wish I could know you earlier
b/c I went back this summer
do you have MSN OR facebook
I wanna add you in my list

 
At 11:27 AM , Anonymous penge said...

Hi Eric,

I just learned about you and your friend's protest at TaiYiDa... just wanted to drop by and show some support!! I hope more and more young people in Taiwan will realize what the KMT have done to Taiwan in the past, and more importantly, the damages that Ma and the KMT are doing to Taiwan's sovereignty, democracy, and economy right now!

Good bless Taiwan!!

 
At 11:34 AM , Anonymous LongliveROC said...

Back at you "anonymous," the ROC government did murder people back in the late 1940s, and my grandmother's brother was murdered because he was a doctor, they wanted to get all the "educated" ones. My family was, indeed, one of the victims back then.
However, Ma has apologized many times about what the KMT had done in the past, and have faced the problems without "hiding" or "lying" like before. I pay great respect for him. And my grandmother has forgiven the KMT, but clearly, she does not love the KMT. However, she believes it is in Taiwan's best interest to stay with the ROC, NOT declaring independence from the ROC, or China, in general.
She does not love the KMT, but she does have a clear mind. She knows that it is safe that Taiwan has been turned to the ROC, not the PRC. (Although she admits that she had rather have Taiwan stayed with Japan.)
What defines your so-called "ABT" and "ABC?"
I am not going to deny that I am an ABC, and I certainly do think myself as an ABT, also. The reason is, simply put, my parents are Taiwanese, my grandparents are Taiwanese. None of my family members came with the KMT because of the civil war. I am an ABC because I do not deny the Chinese blood in me (as an ethnic group), and I claim to be an ABT because I am, indeed, Taiwanese.
Some people like to "define" other people by their own "definitions." Namely, "if you don't love Taiwan the way I do, then sorry you're not Taiwanese."
I find that funny. I am as ABT as any other ABTs, some ABTs want Taiwan to be independent, some ABTs want Taiwan to be rested with, and protected by the ROC. Last time I checked, so are the residents in Taiwan. Some Taiwanese want Taiwan to be independent, some rather keep the status quo -- to be with ROC. (Mind you, for Ma to be elected with his political ideals, with the SMALL percentage of the so-called "Person-out-of-the-province" or Waishengren is not enough. Ma's political ideals MUST have been accepted by the so-called benshengren/person-of-the-province; and on a LARGE scale.)
I respect your opinion as an individual in Taiwan, and I am well aware many others think like you. However, I also call your attention to the decision, and the opinion, that the rest of the Taiwanese have decided for the next four years of Taiwan in March.
I will tell you, simply, I am not the one defining what an ABT is, I am simply stating who I am, with simple facts. I was born in the US, and my family members are all bensheng/person-of-the-province Taiwanese; and I believe that makes me an ABT, by facts, and by common definition (as oppose to a subjective one.)

I love Taiwan, and I respect the ROC government that has protected Taiwan from the Red China. I denounce the shameful murders and other actions that the KMT had performed in the past. I also, accept the apologies and attempts to reconcile the KMT have given. I look forward to the future as an ABT, or Taiwanese. I want what's best for Taiwan right now. I want security and safety for Taiwan. Because I know, the day ROC ceases to exist, the replacement country is not going to be called "Taiwan", it may very well be, the PRC.

Therefore, I am a firm believer of the ROC. I am an advocate for what's best in Taiwan. Not "what feels good" to do, and putting our country at risks.

Love Live the Republic of China.
Long Live democracy in Taiwan.

Sincerely,
LongliveROC

 
At 11:50 AM , Blogger Luffi said...

Hey 阿明~

I'm from Tainan too.

I just saw the video clip of you protesting the Chinese official, and I admire what you did!

You make us Tainan people proud.

T _ T

 
At 12:41 PM , Anonymous veronica said...

To Kate..
I totally agree what you said to CF!

Eric, I am very prond of you!
Again and again!

 
At 1:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job, Eric! I admired your courage and thank you for stand up for All Taiwanese. God bless Taiwan!

 
At 1:58 PM , Blogger CF said...

to kate,
一件簡單的事情何必牽拖? 染上了一些愛台鸚鵡一樣的陋習: 扯東扯西. 我質疑這位外國人的愛台, 你卻扯馬英九?

真的要扯, 而且如果你真的愛台灣, 就去調查那些支持獨立的綠色陣營所選出的立委, 哪幾個人家裡沒有美國護照?

Eric真的有雙重國籍的話(在台美接是被默許而已還敢講那麼大聲?),為何他在成大是以"外籍生"的生份就學? 用台灣國籍就學很可恥? 或是為了逃避這個"他那麼愛的國家"所規定的義務--兵役?

kate, 您可以幫他解釋一下嗎?

 
At 1:59 PM , Anonymous TaiwanLan said...

First off, much respect to you Eric for your courage and commitment to stand out for what you believe is right. It is safe to save that vast majority of the taiwanese concurred with your beliefs and it is just a matter of the extent of their agreement. What I witnessed the last two days is truly remarkable. From your bold action to the incident of vice chairman Chang yesterday, have further reinforce the true issue that exist in the great nation of Taiwan. It is the issue of identity. To be clear, it is the conflict between pro-independent and anti-independent. Indeed, this has taken place for decades, but it is evident that as time goes by, the issue only become more apparent and critical. It is no longer a matter of political issues. What is taken place here is far more complex and serious than what took place in the civil war in the United States. The racism issue in America is merely a one or two way perspective. Yet, what we are facing today are debates that may not have a right or wrong answer. In response to comments made by CLOWN and CJ earlier, peace, harmony, and booming economy opportunities aren't as easy as unifying with China. To maintain current status may be the best thing for both sides at presence. After all, even if in the entire nation of Taiwan is committed to independence, Taiwan may still never be able to do so. The reality is the rest of the world is on China's side for economical concerns and benefits. With less people, less land, less money, and less power, Taiwan is like a little child that has seldom power to defend itself. A child that demands for attention and dying to get respect from the elders and at the same time only want to be treated equally. Taiwan can never speak as loud as China. Taiwan can never threaten the way China do to us. Taiwan can only hope for a miracle. The DPP saying today that we have no reason nor obligation to treat our enemy with sincerity and respect. How can you blame them? If a guest comes to your home is someone that has repeatedly threaten to harm you if you go against their will, should you open your arms with welcoming invitation? Better question to ask is if someone openly denies you, restrict your actions and rights, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN INVITE THEM TO YOUR HOME IN THE FIRST PLACE? Clearly, thats just an example of our ignorant government mishandling the events. Our KMT government wants to make friend with our potential "enemy". The word enemy is questionable but certainly by their actions has proven they are more of a foe than a friend to us. In no way am I elated to see the animosity building. But equally important to say is that, the anger and frustration that has surfaced in Taiwanese people today is surely not something that begin this year. This momentum of hatred happens for good reasons. That even with the diverse beliefs in political views and parties in Taiwan, majority of Taiwanese can agree on one thing. Taiwan is not part of China. Taiwan should have its right to decide for our own future for the better or worse. More importantly, we should be able to do so without sacrifices made to the mainland. It is only then, that the standard for both sides can be critique fairly. It is then, both sides are treated equally and with respect.

 
At 2:03 PM , Blogger gns said...

All the horse crap from this silly administration just reeks to the high heaven. Totally agree with you. And, bravo to your protest in Tainan. Hope to see you on the 25th.

 
At 2:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just want to let you know, we supportyou and very happy to see someone speak out for us. We are very mad, but nohere to release my anger and everything. Thanks I lvoe you. I graduated from National Chen Kung University too.
I went back and voted to Hsieh, and my heart was bronken because of those stupid people who made totally wrong decision.

 
At 2:37 PM , Anonymous TaiwanLan said...

To all the people that are coming on this board doubting on Eric's motive and loyalty, I would like to share my thoughts. For one, I do not know the man. I, much like many of you, come on this site after seeing his brave action on tv news. Thus, I have no intention to defend the guy for personal reason. Being in states for over 18 years now, I am not a ABC or ABT, but I can understand where the guy is coming from. Much like him, I have the same passion for my country and isn't afraid to announce it. For the guy that said he feels that it is cowardly for Eric to rush onto the stage in front of chairman Chang and contested boldly, THINK AGAIN. You really think by marching the protest outside is the only civil and politically correct way to express yourself? You think by acting calmly and more rationally will justify his opinion more? When was the last time in the history of this planet has a so called peaceful demonstration been effective? Why do you think people hold demonstrations and protests? Maybe because the people have given enough time and chances to see that if they don't take actions and matters in their own hands, that they may never get an opportunity to do so! You think thats too drastic? Or maybe if you just try to imagine how Taiwan will be like when it is taken over by the communist. Better yet, just look at Hong Kong! Be my guest and ask anyone living there on the changes they see before and after China have taken over. And needless to say, Hong Kong and Taiwan are NOT in the same situation. So then why should we obey or even consider to reunite with China? Explain to me someone HOW CAN YOU REUNITE WITH A COUNTRY THAT WAS NEVER PART OF US IN THE BEGINNING? And how funny it is to hear Mr Chang to openly say " If Taiwan don't pursue independence, there will be no war guaranteed? And to make matter worse, how about our own "president" Ma to say it alongside. This isn't an example of " was there chicken first or egg first". Clearly, the people of Taiwan know well that the logic of NO INDEPENDENT NO WAR makes absolute no sense. Furthermore, it only proves even more that China has once again positioned itself as a militant nation that simply believes in violence solves problem. How ironic is that? Mr Chang, Mr Ma, and the KMT all condemned the pushing incident as a form of violence, and yet they can not realize what triggers it. Certainly, two wrong does not make it right. But if they can dig the issue deeper, they may then come to a realization of the truth. Let there be one standard and this will be efforts made by all sides. Remember, TREAT OTHERS HOW YOU LIKE TO BE TREATED.

 
At 2:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Spieler said...

在場大部分南藝大師生的表現,仿佛只是行禮如儀,絲毫未對曾多次傷害台灣的張銘清有任何批判的言行,如果少了這幾來自成大的抗議同學,位居阿扁老家官田的南藝大,可是成為共產黨高官張匪銘清來台得分的第一場所。南藝大在場「聆聽」演講並鼓掌的,不覺得汗顏嗎?"

为什么只有几个人呢?奇怪了!其他人都不讨厌张铭清吗?“几个人”和“大部分”, 对于民主的台湾来说应该听谁的声音呢?

还有我想说张铭清这次好像不是以政治身份去台湾的吧?学术交流也要“嗆聲”?书没少读,可还没懂道理啊!

 
At 2:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

上段话是我发的,你们可以叫我CH。
Eric 看你长得还不错,如果因为这次上电视成了明星,不知道你会不会开心,不过我会为你感到耻辱,我会觉得你是在炒作,因为我看到很多ABC or ABT都回到台湾实现一下艺人梦!希望你不是!

 
At 3:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

樓上的陸客,我們只不過是唾棄共產黨?你是來亂的啊!书没少读,可还没懂道理啊!

 
At 3:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

看到新聞報導
感覺
台灣還是有希望的
謝謝你

 
At 3:09 PM , Anonymous taiwanlan said...

Who they're fooling? Three year old? Coming to Taiwan for education view exchange? Mr Chang is a joke, no joke! You really think by sayin that you're here just for that purpose will ease the tension and justify your trip here? Get out of here forreals! Tell me this anyone: WHO DO YOU KNOW SHAKE HANDS WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS POINTED A GUN TO YOUR HEAD?????? If you haven't, don't come on here and say why can't we be friends with them. For China to have missiles pointing right towards our side is just like being pointed at gunpoint. Don't give me that if this then no that. It is wrong to have the mentality to use force of any kind period. If you have problem with Taiwan seeking for independence, settle it like how you demanded the civilized way. And let's not even begin to talk about Lian Jan and Song Su Yu. Who in the right mind would go to the opposition side and shake hands no once but on several occasions throughout the recent years. Put it this way, NOT EVEN CHIANG KAI SHEK HAVE DONE IT BEFORE! One nation or not is beside the point here, but you just don't go over there and evidently surrenders to their side. it isn't just laughable but it also amazes the Chinese themselves. I say if we want respect from China and the rest of the world, let's straighten things out internally first. Having multiple voices only give reasons for China to say that the pro-independent party is just the minority.

 
At 5:43 PM , Blogger 大雄 said...

(1)被邀請來的就是客人,不管是哪一國人。維安工作並未作妥,使受邀來訪的客人遭受到無禮的對待與不堪的遭遇,台藝大並未善盡地主之誼,只知事後道歉燒香膜拜媽祖,校方相關人士第一個該被檢討。

(2)張同學未獲邀請,卻從側門偷溜入場,然後肆行叫囂抗議。不管過程是否正當,結果雖然達到抗議及引人注意的目的,但是手段或許也許可以檢討的。

(3)台灣有民主卻無法治,多元社會容納不同聲音與意見,但是自由需要被法律保障與約束限制,否則無限上崗的自由就等於違法、脫序、暴民、亂紀。

(4)張銘清往昔在海協會任內發言,只是依據高層定稿作態罷了,不管任何人,在他的位置,就是要念那樣的文稿,作出那樣的動作,跟他個人喜好無關。昨天張某以平民學者身分出席,不幸被暴民毆打,但他有啥反應?絲毫未見悲情激憤的憤怒抗議,他的理性與感性訴求,反而凸顯了文明、高度與格調。

有市議員說是張某自己跌倒的,有立委說對待敵人無須慈悲。。。。

試問,如果你我是當事人,被邀請去某國演講或觀光,被人這樣對待、推擠、施暴、毆打,你是怎樣的心態?你能跟張某一樣做出這樣高尚的反應嗎?

將心比心。

張同學我真的想瞭解你對張某被打的感想。

 
At 6:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

在我眼裡,我只看到一隻鬼叫鬼叫的猴子而已!
什麼叫自由民主?
自由民主不是在正在進行中的研討會中干擾,你愛叫大可在會場外叫,那是你的自由。但你有曾想過就這麼衝,會不會引響主辦單位及在場其他與你不同意見的人呢?

美國人就美國人,ABT個什麼呀?

 
At 6:56 PM , Blogger Stuff Mainlanders Like said...

Honestly speaking, I think Eric should forfeit his american citizenship if he really loves Taiwan that much. i do not support de jure independence because all of my family are still in Taiwan and they cannot leave the country if it is attacked by China. Eric can talk about independence all he wants, but I bet if China attacks taiwan, he will be on the next plane to LA.

Divisive politics in Taiwan is what is driving the economy down. Due to political instability and corruption, investors are pulling out of Taiwan. It is both the Blue and the Greens' fault that Taiwan is going down. There are more issues than the Taiwan/China issue, and perhaps we should focus on other things if the cross-strait conundrums cannot be solved.

 
At 8:48 PM , Anonymous Eddie said...

Good deed my man. All of us really need to care about Taiwan with courage and justice. I really look forward to Chen, Yun-Lin's visit in the north of Taiwan. I'll do "something" for him. Will you go on the parade on 10/25? Which line will u go? In the following is my blog,http://www.wretch.cc/blog/eddiel. Hit me when u r online!

 
At 9:10 PM , Blogger Irene said...

Eric,

My Dad and I saw you on the FTV's news all the way from Brisbane, Australia through our satellite tv. I then embarked on a mission to find your blog (couldn't remember your website on the tv as it flashed by too quickly) to say - congratulations on publicizing your voice on the tellie! Keep up the great work!

We are proud supporters of anyone who sticks up for Taiwan and its independence.

I can't believe people are telling you to give up your American citizenship just to show that you "love" Taiwan more....

Do these people know that outside Taiwan, no other government accepts or acknowledges Taiwan as a "country" and therefore there is no issue about dual citizenship because technically, people like you and me don't have a "second" citizenship...

Anyone can be "Taiwanese" if they love Taiwan and stick up for its independence. Doesn't matter if their skin colour is white, yellow or black.

Take Dodgy Mr Ma for example. He's "Taiwanese" and has basically lived in Taiwan most of his life, but unfortunately, he still doesn't believe in Taiwan's sovereignty and wants to become China's lap-dog.

I just hope there are more of you out there supporting Taiwan as we're becoming an endangered species!

+oil lah~

Cheers,
IK :)

 
At 9:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Eric, as a Taiwanese I'm so proud of what you had done on Tuesday. I wish I were there to protest. I'm a native Tainanese and a mother of twins living in Taipei. My twin boys watched the news clipping and admired your courage. As I always teach my boys that we Taiwanees shall stand up and speak up "TAIWAN is a INDEPENDENT country. It's NOT part of China."

 
At 10:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

張銘清來台目的為何有人討論看看嗎?

 
At 10:47 PM , Blogger CF said...

I think yout right. This is not China. But this is NOT the US either.

一個拿外國護照的來就學的人, 如果真的愛台,建議您先拋棄美國公民作個正港的台灣人!不要只敢巴著另依國的大腿在我門國家撒野.

台灣看太多妳們這種只會高喊台獨,手中或家裡卻好幾本外國護照的人了. 最出名的就是金美齡女士~ 台灣的國母....日本國的愛戴者(持日本護照)....
very ironic huh?!
very

 
At 11:48 PM , Blogger MLB in Taiwan said...

Eric,you are not alone.
thanks for encouraging
other Taiwanese young ppl
bravely.

 
At 1:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

難怪大雄有了多拉A夢還是常考零分,依這等智商難怪會誤把恐嚇家人的共匪當成客人來招待...也就不足為奇了!

 
At 1:22 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to cf ,台灣看太多妳們這種只會高喊台獨,手中或家裡卻好幾本外國護照的人了...你指的馬英九跟李慶安嗎?

 
At 2:17 AM , Blogger Geral said...

Eric:
Thank you...you did a great job for Taiwan.


To 大雄:
>>>(3)台灣有民主卻無法治,多元社會容納不同聲音與意見,但是自由需要被法律保障與約束限制,否則無限上崗的自由就等於違法、脫序、暴民、亂紀。
===
說得真好啊!紅衫軍亂台之時,我想,您一定也非常同意這群紅衫暴民違法亂紀吧!

 
At 7:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 樓上的大雄
客人會跑來別人家 這是我家嗎??? 我們的市長陳菊跑到大陸 有說大陸是台灣的嗎 這是哪門子的客人啊 可惜是 我前幾天看CNN他們說 美國的牛奶大部方都是美國跑去墨西哥設廠啦 而且完全在檢查上嚴格 不會有這個問題 你喔 真的不太了解國際耶 多看英文新聞 別被假像騙了啦 什麼以學者身分就被打 拜託人家連New York Times說他是特使 你看一點新聞再發表好不好 學者來台灣可以說 這是我家喔 還威脅如果我家變你家 我要打你 發動戰爭唷?? 有點常識

 
At 11:04 AM , Blogger BRUCE LIN said...

勇敢的台灣之子....我們支持你!!!

 
At 11:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go, Eric. I'm really tired to those post that stating that you can blame on what China is doing because this is the nature of capitalism. That is full of s#$%. Yes, capitalism has its dark side. But there is also something call "integrity". Most of the company will not chose to do such thing, and try to argue for their rights to do so after being caught....what a joke.

 
At 11:56 AM , Blogger 大雄 said...

言論自由
维基百科,自由的百科全书

「言論自由」是按照自己的意願自由地發表言論以及「聽取他人陳述意見的權利」。近來,它通常被理解為包含了充分的表述的自由,包括了創作及發佈電影、照片、歌曲、舞蹈及其它各種形式的富有表現力的資訊。


《世界人权宣言》
言論自由在联合国颁布的《世界人权宣言》中的第十九条及《公民及政治权利国际盟约》第十九條被明确定义:

《世界人权宣言》中的第十九条:

“ 人人有主張及發表自由之權;此項權利包括保持主張而不受干涉之自由,及經由任何方法不分國界以尋求、接收並傳播消息意見之自由。 ”

《公民及政治权利国际盟约》第十九條:

一.人人有保持意见不受干预之权利。
二.人人有发表自由之权利;此种权利包括以语言、文字或出版物、艺术或自己选择之其他方式,不分国界,寻求、接受及传播各种消息及思想之自由。
三.本條第二項所載權利之行使,附有特别責任及義務,故得予以某種限制,但此種限制以經法律規定,且為下列各項所必要者為限:
(http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A8%80%E8%AB%96%E8%87%AA%E7%94%B1)
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民主國家言論自由ㄉ定義是什麼,請各位看倌參考。如果只有你ㄉ話才可以講,別人不行講,這算什麼民主國家?。。。

同樣的情形,張同學在美國嗆聲反政府,應該不會遭受暴力對待吧?張銘清來台,不管講了啥,是可以講道理爭辯的,動手就是不對。台灣配稱文明國家ㄇ?

換個角度看,如果張同學去大陸嗆聲主張台獨,中國老百姓肯定也是會群起圍剿的。那,號稱民主的台灣VS.集權中國,兩者對待言論自由的處理方式,是不是屬於同等的水平?

王議員為了選舉造勢,故意帶媒體去施暴;民進黨為了1025遊行動員,激起仇恨與對立,這些都是政治操作的手法。

我寧願相信廣大的台南人以及台灣民眾還是純樸、善良、和平、溫和、有禮、熱情與理性的。

 
At 12:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

死番仔 中国的事干你死番仔P事啦

 
At 12:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey man, I have a question for you and I will only ask you once; if there is a war between Taiwan and China, would you stay and fight or would you go back to the states? If your answer is to stay and fight then you will have me as your comrade, and if your answer is to go back to the states then it's your choice, but it would make you a jackass.

 
At 1:13 PM , Blogger gns said...

To CLOWN's comment (10:08PM):
"Still stuck in the historical event, such as 228?.....Think about why President Ma had such a hard time, IT IS BECAUSE DPP RUINED TAIWAN'S ECONOMY FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!"

Yeah...look at who's talking. Spoke without data, facts, and logic. Lamooo...with a big L. I guess it'd be all hunkeedoree if we could give Ma all the silverspoons and all the free joyful rides.

"Why hate China so much?"...uummm, why hate Taiwan so much? why love the authoritarian Chinese so much?

 
At 4:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 大雄
1. 簡體字 真的很讓人看得吐血
2. 對於使用簡體字的人 應該最沒資格大談民主
3. 當然 "廣大的台南人以及台灣民眾還是純樸、善良、和 平、溫和、有禮、熱情與理性的。"---- 但是台灣人的理性和溫和絕對是會用對地方的 ㄚ霸蠻橫者 那需以禮相待呢
4. 反正 台灣本來就是個國家 假台灣人之名卻骨子裏想當中國人的 請便吧 請包機直航 別在這裡囉嗦

 
At 5:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 大雄,你說 民主國家言論自由ㄉ定義是什麼,請各位看倌參考。如果只有你ㄉ話才可以講,別人不行講,這算什麼民主國家?這樣的疑問昨天那個來我們台灣恐嚇大家的的張銘清共匪好像也是這樣哭哭啼啼的問媒体耶? 共匪哪懂什麼民主啊!相信喜歡共匪的人應該也不會懂吧!維基百科寫的那些字就算你認得,相信你也不能理解,你還是回家找宜靜或是小叮噹玩吧!

 
At 10:13 PM , Blogger peter said...

阿明:謝謝你.你是台灣人的榜樣.希望所有台灣人都像你一樣的勇敢.
Thank you for your brave behavior,
go go TAIWANESES!

 
At 10:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

我有看各家整段的新聞畫面
請問有哪一台新聞拍出那個民代推(或打)張銘清??
反而很清楚的我看到張銘清倒在地上是那個民代去扶他的~
沒有台獨就沒有戰爭是不是說台獨等於戰爭?
講這種話再去全台灣最深綠的地方逛大街請問目的何在??
學者?全世界都說他是特使!
別人都闖進你家拿槍指著你的頭說你不動我就不開槍
你做何反應?
暴力?
共產黨高官的那些侵台言論才叫暴力!

 
At 10:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 大雄

那我想問你 大陸有給台灣國際上的自由嗎 有給你選擇台灣是你家的自由嗎 給大陸人投票的自由嗎 大陸那麼好 為什麼現在美國都在恐慌他們的熱可可(我前幾天才接到一個朋友叫我不要喝) 還有義大利害怕大陸的毒鞋 到處都是毒 這樣的社會成本才高 一直開放 損失的是全世界的安全與健康 根本不叫保衛全世界人的權益 另外你說的台灣無法治 如果台灣真的無法治 大家早就亂成一團啦 像大陸 你只看到假象 你根本不知道沒有法治就沒有自由 另外 殘體字真的很醜 要嘛 你就打英文 真的請你看完國際新聞 在發表啦 人家美國英國報紙說他是特使envoy 請再加強資訊素養~

 
At 7:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to longliveroc,
i see the value of your comment and do respect your opinion, because we are a democratic society which allows different point of view and opinions, ain’t it? However, in my opinion, just because your family members have forgiven the KMT, you cannot expect other victims of the 228 massacre to do the same as you, because every one is different and has different level of tolerance or forgiveness, whatever you want to call it, and even some people can just get over it easily, but what i was saying is that, what about the people that could not forgive and forget? Should we just disregard their feeling? In addition, the 228 massacre is a major serious event in modern and recent history of Taiwan, and as Taiwanese, it is our right to know the truth and our own history, but the KMT ruled ROC government would not even permit for a real investigation which would allow us to identify all facts and truth, and if realized, such an investigation could eventually teach our future generations of our past and be responsible for not repeating the same mistake as the KMT had made back in the late 1940. Granted, the KMT has “apologized” in a pseudo way, and only do so as any election approaches, but yet, not very sincerely at all when they do so, and if they did sincerely regret, they would have opened up an investigation to reveal the truth to the public, but they have declined and blocked the law and requests one too many times, so ask yourself, how could the rest of the victims carry on and move forward peacefully without “forgive and forget” to begin with?

My ancestors came from china nearly 400 years ago, but that does not mean I am more Taiwanese than any of the people in Taiwan, but I know for a fact that I am not Chinese because there are other ethnics mixed in my blood besides of Chinese Minnan. However, I do not deny “waishenren” as being Taiwanese at all; as long as they identify themselves as Taiwanese, recognize Taiwan as their motherland, just for the record, I despite the term “waisheren”, I am more agreed upon the term “new immigrants”, but if they do see themselves as Chinese citizen, keyword –citizen! then they aren’t Taiwanese at all. Being Taiwanese, that includes Chinese (Han, Minnan, Hakka), Formosan aborigines, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Pilipino, Caucasian, Dutch, French, Japanese, Portuguese, Spanish, Black, Latin, American, etc., whatever your “bloodline” runs within and wherever your ancestor came from, and again, as long as you call yourself Taiwanese and recognize Taiwan as your motherland, then you are Taiwanese, and there’s no doubt about it. In my opinion, it comes down to self-identification, we call the people in the US as Americans because they are Americans, and we don’t identify American by their “bloodline” and neither do the Americans themselves, just as you can’t call a white person – Dutch, German, French, nor British…or call any African Americans as Senegalese or other specific African descent (although most of their ancestors came from west Africa). Again, self-identification is the key, an ex-coworker of mine who is a white descendant of South African, a 7th generation of European South African as he claimed, and he’d told me, ever since the blacks took over the government of South Africa, his family and him want to and have tried to return to Germany where his ancestors had came from. To me, that’s an example of self-identification crisis. Some of the White South Africans have been to Africa for generations, and formed a country through hardship, but still, some of them couldn’t identify themselves as Africans. Similarly, in Taiwan, if some “new immigrants” – which includes foreign brides and “waishenren” as you call, don’t identify themselves as Taiwanese nor recognize Taiwan as their homeland, then Taiwan would be in trouble definitely, especially, on its lacking of unity.

I do not doubt your love for Taiwan, and as a matter of fact, I appreciate your love for Taiwan, even if you are ABC, ABT, white, black, whatever, as long as you love Taiwan and stand for Taiwan’s democracy against every threat coming from China, then we shouldn’t doubt your love for our motherland. However, if ROC government and its legislation body do love Taiwan as much as you and I, then I urge the KMT to revise the outdated, Chinese version of constitution to only include its legal and sovereign territories as of Taiwan (Formosa), Penghu (Pescadores), Kingman and Matsu, because by stating every part of China as our territory within OUR constitution does not reflect the reality of the world today, but only shows how foolish and backward thinking the government is. Lastly, if dwelling on the 228 massacre incident happened in 1947 is not moving forward, then the KMT is even further behind us, because the KMT does not only dwell on its past “prime time” still by stating our neighboring country, PRC’s sovereign land, as part of our country, but also kid the KMT itself and its party members with an unrealistic lie.

Long Live Formosa and Its Democracy and Freedom!

A proud Formosan citizen

 
At 11:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am the man calling you all to "think harder". I was not considering to come back to leave anything. But when I saw "對於使用簡體字的人 應該最沒資格大談民主", I simply can't help. Let me ask you all another question:

If you have choice to make Taiwan be independent OR make whole China be democratic, which one you will vote?

THINK HARDER, THINK WIDER, AND THINK DEEPER. Or Taiwan will never be independent!

 
At 3:48 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the one message above me...

I am Taiwanese, born and raised in Taiwan, and Taiwan is my homeland, so my choice would be the independence of Taiwan without any doubt, and I don't even need to think harder or twice about it. The question was a no brainer to me, it's like asking us if we should care about the health system in Korea or the Phillipines...duh! they have nothing to do with us, and neither does the democray in China..I am not chinese, China is just a neighboring country, so we should i give a damn about democracy in China or not? However, being Asian, if China ever did become a democratic country, I wouldn't mind to see that happen at all, otherwise...democratic or not, I really do not give a shi8t about china, period.

 
At 10:31 AM , Anonymous Felix said...

Being polite to demonstrate Taiwan’s treasured Democracy depends on what kind of people you face; if it is China, then, this is certainly wrong to just be as quiet as clam at specific degree when realizing China deploys thousands of destructive missiles and weapon aimed at Taiwan meanwhile. If you don’t, even in your homeland, it will be likely and easily to be distortedly interpreted as a successful step for communist conspiracy toward annexation of Taiwan which could stir plenty of irrational patriots in China to cover up communist own commitment, toxic milk with melamine to kill infants, the riots everywhere on account of the corruption of communists etc.
However, KMT after it did its best to craftily deceive those idiots to win the legislator and president votes starts to betray mainstream and bully Taiwanese by colluding with China secretly. Thus, your guts pulling no political punches, instead of being a coward, which is an obvious difference between Taiwanese and Chink, get really appreciated!

LOVE TAIWAN !

 
At 4:41 PM , Anonymous Jasmine said...

看到新聞畫面後,真的讓我很感動!!得到台灣人選票而高票當選的馬先生,一昧的偏向中國大陸,當初的經濟議題(或者說是騙局)儼然都變成了灰,原來政治才是他想當總統的主要目的,這讓我開始很疑患,難道台灣人不怕失去台灣嗎?每當出國總是會有人問我們是不是Chinese,我都驕傲的大聲說No,i`m Taiwaness!!你勇敢的行為,讓我更深信不疑,台灣人是要自己的國家!!我是台灣人!!!讓我們一起為了台灣努力吧!!

 
At 2:06 PM , Anonymous Nicole said...

嗆聲阿明你真得很帥
很多人比你還不如
從來不願意好好認識自己的台灣
卻一直想P中國的LP
現在已經開放
叫他們回去中國又不要
整天賴在台灣,又一直不愛惜她
看到你嗆那個共匪的那天
我們全家都為你歡呼
真得很讚
You are the best!!!

 
At 9:56 AM , Blogger Andrew said...

I really don't know why people always call Taiwanese people, Chinese. I'm really frustrated about that and not a lot people know anything about Taiwan.

 
At 8:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

給 考零分的大雄:

民主國家言論自由ㄉ定義是什麼,請各位看倌參考。如果只有你ㄉ話才可以講,別人不行講,這算什麼民主國家?。。。

=>在場並沒有人表示張銘清先生不能說話,相對的,他也說了不少話。我反對你的過度指控。

同樣的情形,張同學在美國嗆聲反政府,應該不會遭受暴力對待吧?張銘清來台,不管講了啥,是可以講道理爭辯的,動手就是不對。台灣配稱文明國家ㄇ?

=>就算是再文明的國家,在遭受固定對象的反覆多次國際性打壓及惡意攻擊後,如果不硬起來保護自己的立場,那也只是沒有意義的文明。正義在文明之上!這層價值觀不容置疑!

換個角度看,如果張同學去大陸嗆聲主張台獨,中國老百姓肯定也是會群起圍剿的。那,號稱民主的台灣VS.集權中國,兩者對待言論自由的處理方式,是不是屬於同等的水平?

=>首先,張同學並沒有去中國嗆台獨的立場,更不會那樣做!理由是我們沒有權利去人家家裡說那種話;就像中國沒有權利去西藏街頭開槍打人一樣!你的問題是引導式問話,一開頭就立論不公,更遑論你以此問題來衡量兩國人民水平是何等荒謬!?

 
At 10:40 AM , Blogger 大雄 said...

英專家:民進黨圍城抗議 造成台灣民主倒退
更新日期:2008/11/07 00:03
(中央社記者黃貞貞倫敦六日專電)英國知名中國問題專家,牛津大學政治系教授曾銳生說,民主進步黨在大陸海峽兩岸關係協會會長陳雲林訪問台灣期間,發動大規模的圍城抗爭活動,此舉不僅破壞台灣得來不易的民主制度,並造成民主發展倒退,民進黨對台灣民主發展確曾有貢獻,但交出執政權後的表現,令人失望。


曾銳生接受中央社記者訪問時表示,民進黨如果對執政黨的政策不滿,宜透過台灣政治制度內的管道表達,展現成熟的民主政治,而不是召集群眾上街鬧事;健康的民主制度是台灣的最大本錢,民進黨發動抗議活動,造成民主倒退,破壞民主發展,對台灣不利。


長期研究中國問題的曾銳生說,民進黨在推動台灣民主發展有特殊貢獻,民進黨執政前發動上街抗議活動可以理解,但是在執政下台後仍繼續用這個方式操作,未免太不負責任。


他特別以日前落幕的美國大選為例,指出美國共和黨總統候選人馬侃在確定落敗後,呼籲支持者接受並支持新總統歐巴馬,同時表示會盡個人一切力量,協助歐巴馬執政,他展現的政治風範令人景仰,相對之下,民進黨的表現遠遠不及,令人遺憾。


曾銳生認為,陳雲林訪問台灣具有重要正面意義,提昇了兩岸關係,民進黨激烈的抗議行動,對台灣與大陸的關係不但沒有負面衝擊,反而有積極影響。


他說,相信北京政府可以了解馬英九為改善兩岸關係,在台灣面臨不小的反對,他已盡了最大努力,如此一來大陸會更珍惜馬英九政府的存在,不會逼迫馬英九在離民意太遠的議題上作太多讓步。


針對馬英九總統與陳雲林的會面,曾銳生表示,整個會面是成功的,馬英九透過會面,達到向海峽兩岸及全球民眾展示,他盡力推動兩岸穩定關係的努力,同時保全他中華民國總統的身份,陳雲林在會面中也未有任何失當的言行,達到北京希望兩岸關係穩定,推動三通與合作的目的。


總結陳雲林的訪台之行,曾銳生指出,陳雲林的訪問對兩岸無疑是件好事,簽署空運、海運、郵政與食品安全四項協議,並沒有令人意外的發展。971106

 
At 9:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Chen Yunlin was having dinner with two-time presidential loser, Lien Chan ( 連戰)."


Nice description...I laughed

-Sana

 
At 3:25 PM , Anonymous sherry said...

I can't believe they tried to turn the speakers off in that shop.

My parents were watching the Youtube vids with me today. They were like its as if its martial law all over again. :(

Just like what u said in your blog.

 
At 3:19 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the destiny of a nation.

Yes we can.

It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail toward freedom.

Yes we can.

It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores and pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness.

Yes we can.

It was the call of workers who organized; women who reached for the ballots; a President who chose the moon as our new frontier; and a King who took us to the mountaintop and pointed the way to the Promised Land.

Yes we can to justice and equality.

Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity.

Yes we can heal this nation.

Yes we can repair this world.

Yes we can.

We know the battle ahead will be long, but always remember that no matter what obstacles stand in our way, nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change.

We have been told we cannot do this by a chorus of cynics...they will only grow louder and more dissonant ........... We've been asked to pause for a reality check. We've been warned against offering the people of this nation false hope.

But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.

Now the hopes of the little girl who goes to a crumbling school in Dillon are the same as the dreams of the boy who learns on the streets of LA; we will remember that there is something happening in America; that we are not as divided as our politics suggests; that we are one people; we are one nation; and together, we will begin the next great chapter in the American story with three words that will ring from coast to coast; from sea to shining sea --

Yes. We. Can.

PRESIDENT OBAMA 08

 
At 1:57 PM , Blogger Joe said...

Hey Eric:
They've not lost their mind
Their mind is what they've shown in the pass six months.

Keep going Eric

 
At 5:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

民進黨支持者心中哪來的那麼多「恨」?

最近臺灣電影《海角七號》是用充滿「愛」與「勇氣」的劇情感動了海峽兩岸的眾多觀眾。劇中阿嘉失意的人生由於友子的愛情而重燃,60年前日籍教師的愛情不因時光久遠而失去光澤。這部電影讓我們見證了「愛」的偉大,也讓我們對平凡臺灣人的愛恨情仇有了更為深刻的認知。我們深知,大多數的臺灣人都像我們一樣,都懷有一顆感恩之心,並對我們周邊的人充滿著寬容與愛意。但是,近期臺灣民進黨的種種表現,特別是海協會陳雲林會長訪台期間的種種不理性行為,也讓我們看到另外一批人臺灣人的另一面,那就是民進黨支持者們身上、心中所表現出來的不可理愈的「恨」意。一種對大陸的無名之限,對臺灣政府的無為之恨,對國民黨的奪權之恨,對國際社會的不理解之恨,甚至還有對臺灣中間民眾的不支持之恨。

民進黨作為一個曾經在臺灣具有8年執政經驗的主要政黨,他們的支持者哪來的那麼多的恨呢?如果說大陸與臺灣在歷史上早有積怨,那也應該是中國國民黨更加仇恨大陸才對,對於成立剛剛20年的民進黨,與中國大陸之間幾乎沒有什麼黨際恩怨。如果說當前的民進黨支持者與大陸之間有利益衝突,那麼臺灣每年從大陸獲取近千億美元的貿易順差,大陸陸續出臺惠及南部臺灣的優惠措施,民進黨的支持者應該更能從兩岸交流中獲益才對。但是,民進黨的支持者們卻沒有從中國大陸的惠台政策中體會到善意,也沒有從日益一體化的全球發展大趨勢中體認到兩岸合作的必要性,相反,卻陷入他們自己的劃定的「仇恨」怪圈之中。在民進黨的意識形態裏,「恨」是它的主軸,「恨」成了它反臺灣外省人、反華反中的核心價值。民進黨讓自己的支持者一直生長在仇恨之中,並最終在仇恨的基礎上發展到暴力抗爭,然後再用「仇恨」來合理化綠色民眾的一系列暴力行為。

民進黨以「恨」為綱,首先是由它支持者的社會結構所決定的。在民進黨成立之前及其成立之初,臺灣在國民黨的高壓統治之下,一直將臺灣當作反攻大陸的基地,對臺灣的經濟社會抱有一種「過客心態」,再加上當時國民黨當局對臺灣思想文化領域的控制,經濟建設領域重北輕南,造成中南部民眾,特別是中南部中下層民眾對國民黨統治的極大不滿,這些不滿民眾構成了民進黨的社會基礎,成為民進黨支持者與國民黨支持者之間政治對立的社會根源。

其次,民進黨支持者的「恨」在很大程度上與一些民進黨政客的刻意民意操弄有關。一些臺灣政客為了自己的政治利益,喜歡並擅於操弄「恨」這個元素來做為他們權力的營養,惡意煽動型政客將臺灣社會按照最基本的矛盾點展開仇恨式的二分法進行切割,用「統—獨」、「外省—本省」、「外來—本土」、「賣台—愛台」這樣的說辭,刻意製造臺灣的民意衝突與對立,在選戰中使用抹黑、造謠、扣帽子這些伎倆,加深民進黨支持者們的仇恨意識。

第三,臺灣目前所面臨的日益困難的政治經濟環境,也成為民進黨支持者們的仇恨一個重要來源。臺灣是亞洲地區經濟開發較早的經濟體,在20世紀70-80年代,臺灣就作為「亞洲四小龍」之一,成為引領亞洲經濟發展的典範。近年來,由於受到國際經濟大環境與自身經濟增長潛力有限的影響,臺灣的經濟增長長期陷入停頓狀態,特別是與快速崛起的中國大陸地區相比,臺灣相對于大陸地區在經濟領域的領先優勢逐漸喪失,造成臺灣民眾在心理上的危機意識,特別是對於處於相對社會底層的民進黨支持者而言,其對社會的不滿情緒更為激烈,再加上對民進黨在近期一些選舉中的失利,更加激化了他們以「恨」為綱的負面想法。

應該說,民進黨支持者們的「仇恨」意識有其特定的社會背景,是臺灣特有的政治經濟環境下催生出來的一種社會現象,民進黨這種以「恨」為綱的意識形態,不僅對兩岸關係的和平發展和臺灣社會的安定團結是有害的,就是對民進黨本身的成長與轉型也是有百害而無一益。在民進黨執政時期,以「恨」為綱的執政理念窄化了它的政策思維與執行能力,使民進黨在內政上無法有所表現;下臺後的民進黨,仍然堅持以恨為基調,積極向深綠民眾靠近,與基本盤相互取悅,彼此取暖,無法走出新的政治格局,近期更是在仇恨情緒的驅使下做出種種不理性的行為,讓臺灣一夜之間成為「暴力之島」,更讓臺灣在「民主」蒙羞。如果民進黨的支持者再不轉變這種以恨為綱的思維理念,相信在不久的將來,民進黨的支持者將會只剩下為數不多的基本盤,成為日益被臺灣廣大民眾所拋棄的政黨。

當前,海協-海基兩會的制度化協商模式已經正式建立,兩岸之間的經貿交流也會因剛剛簽署的四項協議而快速推進,兩岸民眾之間相互理解與溝通的管道也更加暢通,民進黨的支持者們也應該轉變一下自己的思維模式了,希望民進黨的支持者們有機會能夠到大陸看一看,看一看大陸民眾對臺灣的善意與期待,用理解與溝通化解「恨」,讓交流與共同利益編織「愛」。正如陳雲林在臺灣期間拜會慈濟證嚴法師所說的那樣,大愛是遍佈全世界的,兩岸同胞都是骨肉同胞,應該有相互關愛之心,大愛精神會沖淡兩岸之間的這樣或那樣的矛盾和問題。希望民進黨的支持者能夠象陳會長一樣深刻體會證嚴法師的「大愛精神」,記住證嚴法師的話:「世人要以「大愛」之心相互包容,世界上讓人內心祥和的只有一個字,那就是「愛」。

(●作者李安方)

 
At 3:13 PM , Anonymous usa said...

民進黨支持者心中哪來的那麼多「恨」?
That is such a stupid question!

Taiwanese have suffered 60 years under that defunct ROC-Chinese KMT’s Marsh Law, a foreign power, 15% of minority (the Mainlander-Chinese) ruling the 85% of Taiwanese. The KMT regime persecuted ethnic Taiwanese, killing tens of thousands of them and imprisoning many Taiwanese leaders, professionals, scholars and activists between 1947 and 1987.

Over the past three weeks, seven DPP members have been questioned, arrested or detained by the KMT authorities, including former National Security Council secretary-general Chiou I-jen, DPP Chiayi County Commissioner Chen Ming-wen, former minister of the interior Yu
Cheng-hsien and city or county officials in Tainan and Yunlin. The Yulin county supervisor Mrs. Su tzy-fiun is on hunger strike in prison, protests that she is innocence.

"The political neutrality of the judicial system is an
essential element in a democracy. It is also essential that
any accused [is] considered innocent until proven guilty in
the court of law.

But the news media in Taiwan is controlled by the KMT, the judicial system is controlled by the KMT. Prosecutor’s office leaked to news media. "This kind of 'Trial by Press' is a violation
of the basic standards of judicial procedures in western countries. It also gives the distinct impression that the Kuomintang-KMT authorities are using the judicial system to get even with members of the former DPP government.

Because of the KMT’s conduct that painted Taiwan’s democracy backward.

The “WHITE TERROR” has returned under the KMT-Mr. Ma ying-joe now.

 
At 4:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Taiwanese have suffered 60 years under that defunct ROC-Chinese KMT’s Marsh Law,"

你頭殼壞掉了啊? What kind of "suffering"? Let's see. Was it "suffering" that Taiwan used to be the strongest of 亞洲四小龍 in terms of economic development. Was it suffering that Taiwanese always have freedom moving freely anywhere they liked? Was it "suffering" that there are so many farmers and land owners (田僑仔) who got rich from selling their lands during the economic development? (BTW, 田僑仔 are mostly so-called "Taiwanese"). Was it suffering that Taiwanese even elected a "三級貧戶之子" as it President TWICE who made millions and millions of USD from bribery and public funds?

Stop making up stories about how bad it was under KMT rule. Why don't you move to Myanmar today and then come back to tell us what real suffering is like under tyranny.

"Over the past three weeks, seven DPP members have been questioned, arrested or detained by the KMT authorities, including former National Security Council secretary-general Chiou I-jen, DPP Chiayi County Commissioner Chen Ming-wen, former minister of the interior YuCheng-hsien and city or county officials in Tainan and Yunlin. The Yulin county supervisor Mrs. Su tzy-fiun is on hunger strike in prison, protests that she is innocence."

Chen Ming-Wen's and Su tzy-fiun's corruption cases had been under invesitigation for more than two years when DPP was still in power. Any politician who accept bribery should be prosecuted. Mrs. Su tzy-fiun could have made bail and get her day in court. Instead she declined bail and want to try her case in the media by pulling a 絕食 stunt.

Chiou I-jen should be hung if it's proven that he embezzled Taiwan's secret diplomacy fund for his personal use, especially knowing how hard it has been for Taiwan's check book diplomacy- 發國難財的人是最另人不齒的!!!


阮祖公過海來台灣時,你祖公可能還在大陸當外省人勒,所以我最不齒打族群牌 悲情牌
的人.
國民黨這一路過來對台灣的貢獻比那一群只會出一支嘴的民進黨多幾萬倍.
沒有國民黨和那一群離鄉背井的"老芋頭",台灣早就在WWII後被大陸統一了.

 
At 4:55 PM , Blogger Joe said...

After reading the commentary wirtten by coward person who couldn't use its name instead of using "Anonymous", I have a thought that how ignorant s/he is.

You should go home and read more Taiwan History

Stupid Ass

 
At 5:01 PM , Blogger Joe said...

Do you know how many elite had been killed during the pass sixty years?

Do you know how prosperous Taiwan was before WWII and after 1920?

You probably have no idea of what I'm saying because you are not a real citizen in Taiwan

Or I should say that you just a KMT's stooge.

I can understand why you wrote this kind of comment because you've been only taught the fake history.


I beg you to read more books.

Please don't write this funny comment again; otherwise, I may assume you're just like Mr. Ma

Go Home to find your mom

hahah

 
At 5:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Got milk? If you do, pray that it’s not from China."

轉載:
8年黑心政權

中南部一堆洗腎人口>>黑心電台賣假藥>>黑心政黨庇護黑心電台>>黑心政黨選舉時需要黑心電台的擁護與支持>>黑心政黨與黑心電台形成共生結構這就是愛台灣的民X黨政權,

這就是愛台灣又愛A錢的陳X扁政權,希望這些寧願洗腎也要支持陳X扁的鄉親,一定要繼續堅持下去。黑心嗆黑心?!,

我都搞不清楚到底是大陸的黑心貨比較黑還是毒害台灣數十年的假藥電台比較黑心.........

 
At 6:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

又是位腦殘的鱉三只敢匿名
如真是黑心八年還能讓你苟延殘喘
在別人的blog如馬狗一樣
瘋狗亂咬

那五十五年的毒奶會比八年好嗎
真是中國藍汀汀

 
At 6:56 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Do you know how prosperous Taiwan was before WWII and after 1920?"

"Do you know how many elite had been killed during the pass sixty years?" How many? why don't you just pull a nubmer out of your hat. DPP has made up so many numbers that any number sounds good to me.

You Sound like someone whose family missed being ruled by the Japs. Do you know how many Taiwanese men (軍伕) were forced to fight in the Japanese army against their will and never returned? Of course you don't care and will not remember to mention and is all for glorifying the Japs. Your family is probably one of those "elites" who gladly served the Japs to suppressed Taiwanese.

Do you know how many Taiwanese women were forced to serve as army prostitutes (aka Comfort Women 慰安婦) against their will during WWII? Of course you don't care and will not remember to mention and is all for glorifying the Japs. Your family is probably one of those "elites" who gladly served the Japs to suppressed Taiwanese.

The Japs never apologized to the Taiwanese 軍伕's family for the lost lives and the forced prostitutes. However, people like you happily forgive the Japs and never said a word about the Taiwanese 軍伕 killed.

If you are so willing to forgive the Japs for their war crimes during WWII, why do you keep overlooking the contribution that KMT made in Taiwan? What about the economic development 70's, 80's and 90's? How about KMT's education policy that allowed a "三級貧戶之子" to get the first rate education and became Taiwan's President TWICE? Without KMT, Taiwan is already part of China. Do you think that America would have supported Taiwan without KMT in Taiwan?

台灣人成為日本的動員機器,不斷教育為天皇效忠的天職,受到天朝洗腦的台灣學生、成為日本皇朝的順民,台灣所生產的物質與人力,皆為天皇效命。
1937年以後,日本為因應戰爭動員,用種種手段榨取台灣物資,並徵調台灣囝仔上戰場賣命。1945年8月15日本投降,台灣再度經歷「改朝換代」的陣痛與掙扎,原為日本籍的台灣兵,處境更是淒涼。三萬人捐軀中國與南洋戰場;生還者回到台灣,許多人在228清鄉中消失,更多人在國民政府的高壓統治下忍辱噤聲,不敢讓人知道他為日本賣命打仗的辛酸史。
1941年,總督府應法屬印度支那派遣軍之請,以奉公團名義,召募1,000名軍屬上前線。此後又派出6團,分赴菲律賓、馬來西亞、新幾內亞等地。此外又有台灣特設農業團、台灣特設勤勞團、建設團等徵調方式。其中「台灣特設勤勞團」一直到1944年7月海上航路中斷前,已經出團30次,人數多達2萬8千名。
海軍方面,則徵調海軍工員,負責修築軍營,道路等戰地設施。此外還徵台灣人到海南島擔任「巡查補」,也就是警察的助手。不少巡查補到戰地不久,被編入海軍陸戰隊,在國軍、共軍、民兵三方攻勢下做生死戰。
1941年6月,日本內閣決議在台灣實施志願兵制,1942年起接受申請,受訓從高雄港出發。第一期士兵被投入戰場最南端,澳洲北部的帝汶島,作家陳千武就是這期的志願兵,日後並將這段艱辛的戰地經驗寫入小說。一直到1945年徵兵制實施前,陸軍志願兵總數約有5,000多名。
1943年8月,開始接受海軍志願兵申請。共實施六期,只有第一期的1,000人訓練較為完整,以後每期錄取2,000名,因戰事激烈,訓練減少;後四期連訓練都取消,直接編入海兵團。派出海外的是前兩期。第二期死傷慘重,200名搭乘「護國號」往日本的台灣兵遭美軍炸沉;其他送往越南、印尼、菲律賓的台灣兵,只有一半在戰後生還。
第二次大戰,日本國土的戰力消耗很快,為了補充戰鬥人員,台灣成為補集點,除了戰物資,加上由軍伕─軍屬─軍人往上提升的台灣軍人地位,為了是事實上的需要,其原因之乃在於台灣人受日治教育的普及,台灣人普遍認為自己就是真正的日本皇民,台灣投入大量的軍力、人力,做為正式日本皇軍,進入東亞戰場賣命。
1945年1月,日本由於戰局失利,為了固守台灣,開始對台灣人實施徵兵制。這一年滿20歲的青年,共有45,726人接受兵役檢查,大部份以現役兵入營股役。這批台灣兵大都派在台灣本島巡弋海岸、防衛軍事要地。
1942年,陸軍志願兵實施同時,辦理憲兵補(憲兵助手)、看護助手的志願申請。因此也有一群嚮往南丁格爾精神的台灣女性志願應募,前往戰地照顧傷兵。為了因應叢林作戰的需求,秘密徵調台灣各族原住民8,000人以上,編為高砂義勇隊,遠赴南方戰場,在前線做軍伕與游擊隊。這些原住民表現英勇,是戰爭中的傳奇;但犧牲最慘,生還者可能不到1/10。
不論軍屬、志願兵、高砂義勇隊或護士,每一次海外徵用都用總督府或皇民奉公會,而非軍方的名義公告,規定應募者資格、工作內容、薪資與需求人數,看起來像是海外工作的機會,吸引不少人參加。
官方並透過御用媒體加以渲染。陸軍志願兵接受申請時,官方宣稱42萬人應募,數字的真實性令人懷疑。軍方更在各媒體刊載「感謝聖恩」的宣傳,以煽動青年志願從軍的熱潮。加上如火如荼的皇民化教育,以及學校、街庄長、警察軟硬兼施的「催徵」,台灣人或自願或被迫,紛紛被動員出征。
實際上,台灣兵共同的想法是經濟考量。由於戰爭拖累經濟,不少家庭生計艱苦;青年留在台灣,每天都有密集的軍訓和勞役,幾乎難以安定工作;而到海外當軍屬的薪資,幾乎是基層警察的三倍……種種因素驅使青年離鄉背井,去打一場連自己也不知道多危險的戰爭。日本戰事失利,台灣軍人的命運不再是日本皇軍,死得更慘,主要在於台灣人被輪流殖民的結果,並顯示出台灣人沒有建國的觀念,而願意不斷地接受新殖民者的強制統治。不幸的事件波波襲來,日本軍民投降之後可以回到日本,台灣人組成的日本皇軍投降了,回到台灣了嗎?慘也。

 
At 8:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Do you know how prosperous Taiwan was before WWII and after 1920?"

Not all Taiwanese "appreciated" the Japs as much as you do. If you have the capacity to forgive the Japs for what they did to Taiwanese, you should have some decency to look beyond the 228 tragedy- the one incident that kept being used by DDP even though 228 was more about KMT against communists. 228 was not a TI movement.

抗議17年有成 慰安婦對日求償 立院通過決議
更新日期:2008/11/12 04:34 何醒邦/台北報導
奮鬥十七年的慰安婦對日求償運動,終於有成!立法院院會昨天決議,要求日本政府正式對慰安婦道歉和賠償,獲得不分黨派支持,雖決議文不具強制法律效力,但至少在性別與人權教育上向前邁進,同樣也令慰安婦阿嬤們振奮無比。
高齡九十二歲的台籍慰安婦阿嬤代表吳秀妹聽聞後感慨表示,十多年來不斷到日本抗議,日方都裝聾作啞,「今天感謝政府幫忙出一口氣。」
台灣是全球第五個正式以國會通過、要求日本賠償的國家。另外,南韓總統李明博最近接受英國「泰晤士報」訪問時也表示,日本明仁天皇應倣效戰敗後的德國,對在亞洲的侵略行為懺悔。
立法院院會昨天決議通過,要求日本政府以「清楚且不曖昧的態度,正式承認、道歉且接受戰時日軍性奴隸制度的歷史責任」,並對受害倖存者直接謝罪和賠償,以利早日回復慰安婦受害者名譽和尊嚴,遵守聯合國人權委員會建議,教育這一代和下一代正確史實。
該決議由民進黨立委黃淑英、賴清德、潘孟安、及國民黨立委楊麗環共同提案,共有廿四人連署,並獲不分黨派支持。
提案說明指出,二次世界大戰期間,日本在殖民地及占領區,強迫欺騙誘拐徵召無數婦女與少女充當從軍性奴隸,日本政府至今不願正式承認此戰爭責任,且多次否認事實,並拒絕以日本政府名義道歉與賠償,受害者至今仍蒙受難以痊癒的傷害。而台灣慰安婦倖存者如今已八、九十歲,皆希望在有生之年解決賠償問題,伸張人權,恢復名譽與尊嚴。

 
At 11:20 AM , Blogger Joe said...

I know you Chinese stooge will come back to show how dumn you are.

Therefore, I still called you coward who only can use anonymous.

Also, you don't really understand what I said.

Surely, I'll repeat what I said
Listen carefully, coward
What I said is "Do you know how prosperous Taiwan was before WWII and after 1920?"

What you wrote is during WWII

There you go, Dumn ass

Please read carefully,
By the way, I don't know who you are, but I'm wondering where you got education

Shame of you and your parents

 
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