Pride
Over the past week as people have dropped by this site to leave a comment, several have questioned my commitment to Taiwan. I have also heard through friends that those with different political views than mine have gone online saying that I should renounce my American citizenship (not Green Card) if I really mean what I say. To those doubters and haters I ask, since when do you have to be born and raised in Taiwan to care and fight for it? Taiwanese people live all across the globe. Many of these Taiwanese have never even set foot on this island, yet know more about this island's history and current situation than many living on this island. Does this make them any less Taiwanese? I was born in the United States and proud of it. I am also Taiwanese and even more proud of that. Is my Taiwanese (Hoklo) perfectly fluent? Not even close. Can I speak Chinese? Not any better than a three-year old, okay two-year old. Do I know everything about Taiwanese history? I only wish I did. Despite all this, I will always hold my head high when I call myself Taiwanese.
For those of you out there that think being Taiwanese means holding a Taiwanese passport or a Taiwanese identification card, you are sadly mistaken. If you believe in the right to self-determination, in the ideals of an open, democratic society, and are willing to fight and speak out for Taiwan that makes you more Taiwanese than any piece of identification. I may have been born in the US, but at least I consider myself Taiwanese, which is more than I can say for many of the Taiwanese people on this island that consider themselves Chinese. To those people, I suggest you renounce your Taiwanese citizenship and emigrate to China, where you will not be able to vote, protest, have the right to free speech, or practice religious freedom. But, you will have all an endless supply of melamine to ingest.
In closing, I just want to say to all those people that have questioned my heart and courage, that if you're going to say I lack the balls to stay in Taiwan, at least have enough guts to leave your real name when you come at me. Don't leave your comments signed "anonymous." It takes absolutely no courage whatsoever to make personal attacks and then hide your identity. I welcome you to step up to the plate.
For those of you out there that think being Taiwanese means holding a Taiwanese passport or a Taiwanese identification card, you are sadly mistaken. If you believe in the right to self-determination, in the ideals of an open, democratic society, and are willing to fight and speak out for Taiwan that makes you more Taiwanese than any piece of identification. I may have been born in the US, but at least I consider myself Taiwanese, which is more than I can say for many of the Taiwanese people on this island that consider themselves Chinese. To those people, I suggest you renounce your Taiwanese citizenship and emigrate to China, where you will not be able to vote, protest, have the right to free speech, or practice religious freedom. But, you will have all an endless supply of melamine to ingest.
In closing, I just want to say to all those people that have questioned my heart and courage, that if you're going to say I lack the balls to stay in Taiwan, at least have enough guts to leave your real name when you come at me. Don't leave your comments signed "anonymous." It takes absolutely no courage whatsoever to make personal attacks and then hide your identity. I welcome you to step up to the plate.
posted by Eric @ 12:03 PM
102 Comments:
hey Eric,
I agree with you, as I am also of similar background as you. keep up with your work and as I always tell many people.. be yourself and be proud of it.
你好哦
在你民視新聞和你小片刻對過話
我是LEE E LOO哦
我和朋友們也會要求他們用中原話哦
哈哈哈哈
只是張鉻清是你的跳板嗎？
我覺得渺渺哦
我的一些想法不知你知嗎？
台灣一定要統一才能有'一定的國際地位哦
而台灣人多數是中國起家的哦
只是地位的不同罷哦
而我也有妙策哦
你的民主自已爭取納百川(在台灣開放共產党
同民主不是嗎??
樓上的文章很難理解
你跟阿明對過話??在民視??
要求朋友用中原話?
張銘清是跳板??跳去那?
你覺得渺渺哦??
你既然要講 何不清楚講明你要表達的話
你是用翻譯軟體啊?
你的妙策何不說來聽聽??
為了納百川在台灣開放共產党同民主??
吼~~力金例害
這個阿明...
硬要我留真名...
看我放三隻動物
踢你...
啄你...
咬你...
在民主的世界裏
不是沒有'共產党的
如果不納百川
你民主嗎？
樓上的過客
我沒必要和你爭執哦
況且
你蠻不民主的哦O:O?
to greene:
統一祇是企業惡意併購的粉飾太平說法，是一種中國式無可救藥的官僚心態用語，如果我說，我統一了你媽？想必你一定是我兒子啦！這樣你懂了嗎？擺著明刀明槍而口口聲聲相親相愛只是給雞拜年的黃鼠狼。就像水跟火不相容一樣，台灣與中國理當不可統！！！還有請別在這裡共產黨東共產黨西的亂吐大便，從現今的中國人民慘況可以證明：共產主義只是一柄被裝飾過的屠刀，刀身的花紋再怎麼美侖美奐，也掩蓋不住刀鋒上的陳年血腥味。歪曲的理論說得再大聲，也終究成為不了真理，再胡說八道，我把你給統一了！
如果戰爭
我想我也會被你這種人所統一O?O
承認了吧！ 叫聲爸爸來...
問題不是戰爭
而要'和平呀??
如果導致國際排擠
你會認'同的
只是如果南韓沒有了北韓
會是韓國??
而德國的不完整也和平落幕呀
只是為何你沒想到這些呢??
是國際矮化台灣呀
他們不避諱
又何需引來非和平的殺戮
在香港
只是一國兩制下的一個政府
而台灣卻天涯若比鄰哦
他的不同在於有完整的國家体制
所以對岸也高格對待唷
而和平是成熟的
這是這個世界哦
to greene:
據你誠懇的口吻，以及斯文的字眼。我相信觀者無不微微感受到你心中那股和平的溫暖。更從你鑠鑠有神的雙眼中透露著一股祥光，彷彿訴說著共產共和的唯美與人群的汗水來相互輝映出理想的馬克思風格烏托邦.........這是多麼熱情又和諧的畫面阿.......但一轉眼！？我卻又懷疑你就算能抹煞掉天安門下的血跡，能遮耳不聞西藏街頭的淒厲哭喊，但你怎麼能夠眼看著無數你的中國孩子身染著無望絕症而為了吃飯去賤賣自己的血液過活.... 而視若無睹，然後還冠冕堂皇面帶微笑的向四海誇耀著共產中國的偉大？...... 我為了你的眼盲心也盲感到汗顏，你自觀無礙的理想背後，蘊藏多少大惡巨奸是你光有理想但無法抑制的罪惡.....望你三思。
不能有吾寧死的念頭呀??
因為我是世界的一份子呀
別無所謂的犧牲呀
而西藏不是成熟的政府呀
這樣我們連香港都不如囉??
而人權在政治裏有不同意義'美國共和党呀
Eric,
Keep up your Taiwanese American-ese. It's sad that it's people like us who correct and educate others that THERE IS A DIFFERENCE between Taiwanese and Chinese than those who were born and bred in Taiwan who calls themselves Chinese. The apathetic nature of Taiwanese people is borderline pathetic. No drive to see one's identity recognized or heritage preserved.
"For those of you out there that think being Taiwanese means holding a Taiwanese passport or a Taiwanese identification card, you are sadly mistaken."
Eric- unfortunately for you, this is "THE" standard that DPP 民進黨 applies to define "who" are Taiwanese and "who" can say that he/she "loves" Taiwan 愛台灣. During the March Taiwanese presidential eleciton DPP has again applied this standard to Ma and said that Ma is not Taiwanese. If we apply the DPP standard consistently here, you are NOT Taiwanese and you have no "right" to calim that you love Taiwan, unless according to DPP that you renounce your American citizenship.
哎..你們這些獨派ABC真是...「豬八戒照鏡子,裡外不是人」.. 口憐哦...
Eric,
I definitely support and agree with you. If anyone that have lived in other countries, they will know to appreciate their home country. I am not like those people that you said, "For those of you out there that think being Taiwanese means holding a Taiwanese passport or a Taiwanese identification card, you are sadly mistaken." I am a true Taiwanese and always will be proud to be a Taiwanese.
Born in USA! Stay in USA!
An American-Taiwanese bay guy(美台爛人)named 張浩明 who perhaps was unemployeed in USA , so he comes to Taiwan to rob our Taiwanese people's job opportunity. Shame on him!
Is it his job to protest against mainland? Uh yes, this is his first job,perhpas low-paid money he can receive!
Dear the government of USA, please send this American guy back to USA!
from Voice of Taiwanese People
Quote from
http://taioanlang.blogspot.com/2008/10/born-in-usa-stay-in-usa.html
to greene
沒有了自由，就算是呼吸著也毫無生命。世界上的每一個份子都應當此念。沒有任何人是該犧牲的，而是要他們心向正義的活著！西藏是上天的屬地，不是任何一個政府的奴隸！香港有香港道路，台灣有台灣的信念。政治應是人類邁向光明的工具，不是強權恣意妄為的藉口！
民主不能當飯吃!
邀請你加入台灣人自己組成的"正統會"吧!
http://taioanlang.blogspot.com/
台灣是民主制度下的國家哦
我還沒加入政党??
你的話語帶諷
好不自由..
不過不代表台灣沒有信念哦
希望你的桃花園是所屬的
談了這麼多
免不了現實
不是嗎？
給那位Born in USA! Stay in USA!
的人
那馬小九是不是要Born in HK! Stay in HK??
to the genius that said, "民主不能當飯吃." can you eat communism? how about socialism? how about totalitarianism?
since you seem to be so wise, can you please elaborate how 共產可能當飯吃? if you have the answer, i would love to tell the 1.2 billion people of China. the floor is yours.
to greene
我想你誤會了，我並沒有對你語帶嘲諷，而是從頭到尾的公開反對你，紅皮黑骨（大陸貨都是黑心的）的傢伙。你滿腦子共產，走到哪都不會自由。桃花源是放在心裡的信仰，請你不要用你的嘴巴褻瀆了這個字眼所涵括的意義，現實就是你這張聒聒亂叫的鳥嘴吐不出象牙，而我卻還在這裡對牛彈琴。
ㄟ樓上的不要汙辱牛啦 那是賽啦
哈！那希望它可以拿張衛生紙把自己擦掉
Eric,
I'm not big in Taiwan/China politics but I do I have one little request. Would you please wear a Yankees' hat in ur next interview with 民視 or just in any public appearance?
Boston Sox=Yankees haters=Wang Chien-Ming Haters=Taiwan haters.
Actually, regardless of which team you support, can you wear a Yankees hat as a shout-out to your boy "F.O. Bizzo" here in the Big Apple representing T-Dub? (T-Dub=>T Double U=>TW=>Taiwan)
Eric,
As a fellow American, I'm very proud of you!
I'm proud of the fact that you're an American, that you nourish the impoverished nations with Starbucks and McDonald's.
I'm proud of the fact that you're an American, that you strengthened the ailing nations by selling them the "best weapons" during the Vietnam War Era and encourage children to "fight for your right."
I'm proud of the fact that you're an American, that you charge everything on credit card and buy houses you can't really afford just so you can enrich the poor nations by selling them the sub-prime securities.
I'm proud of the fact that you're an American, that you govern the domestic policy of other inferior nations in the name of liberty and justice.
Keep up the good work!!
Hi Eric,
This is Simon from CA. I was born in TW, but lives in the States now, and I call myself both Taiwanese and Americans. Yes, you will encounter Taiwanese haters ignorants and rejects, but don't get discouraged. For everyone of those out there, there are dozens of you and I who believe in the principle of freedom, self determination, and the moto, "Give me liberty or give me death."
Unlike many chinese who just wanted to leach off Taiwan, and holds green card or other citizenship, us Taiwanese will live in this world with clear conscious and live a meaningful lives.
May god bless Taiwan and true Taiwanese. And famine and death curses all the pretenders, traitors, and enemies.
Per Simmon's post: "And famine and death curses all the pretenders, traitors, and enemies." Is this what you called democracy? Is this what the Constitution called "secure the Blessings of Liberty?"
Typical stupid American. Go support Bush and shut the fuck up.
F.O. Bizzo,
hey man, i was gonna wear a yankees hat, but they were sold out the sunday before my little shout out to chang min qin. the red sox was the only one they had that fit. i'm definitely a wang chien ming fan. he's tainan all the way.
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dude eric
forget the Yankees hat and east coast F.O. Bizzo...wear a Cubs jersey! Holla at ya boy in the Midwest. Chi-Town represent! And what's up with ppl hating on America here? go back to your own country if you don't like it. What's there not to like about us? We invented baseball, we got women with big old "brains", big cars and big houses. U hate because u got a small dizzick....
to the person made the huge sweeping generalizations about americans, i must say congratulations. you do have such a gift with words and even more, your power and depth of analysis is something to be envied.
i rarely if ever frequent starbucks or the golden arches. i wasn't aware that i couldn't pay for my credit card and i didn't know that i was buying multiple houses that i could not afford. the vietnam war was the US bombing innocent vietnamese, cambodian, and laotian farmers and civilians. by saying those things about americans that aren't representative of me whatsoever, i must say, touche.
Eric,
I admire your courage to stand up against what you perceived as oppression and tyranny. Tough I praise your bravery and understand your passion, I strongly disapprove your action in the university. Courage in excess may result in poor judgment about ends worth achieving. Further more, I strongly disagree with you regarding the conflicts between Taiwan and China. I believe you have analyzed this issue through a dichotomy paradigm and have viewed the Geo-politics in both China and Taiwan in a static post-civil war manner. I understand that the tragic 228 incident has evoked angers and instilled the hatreds in our minds. In my humble opinion, we need to put the differences behind us and work together to achieve a more harmonious society. I believe your judgment and actions in the university had impeded this goal, or worse, moved us towards the contrary direction. It is our basic instinct as human beings to live free from oppression and tyranny and I believe the governments from both sides of the Taiwanese Strait realized this fact and are working hard in achieving that goal. I sincerely hope you could give both Chinese and Taiwanese a chance to live like you did here in the United States, under the blessings of liberty and prosperity. I believe the best way to do so is to united the people instead of further divide us as you did that day in the lecture hall in the university.
希望你因為文字而有警惕
別無謂的反嘲而令人不齒
哎呦..你做的也不過是"小鼻子 小眼睛"的事.. 張銘清在大陸政壇連F咖都算不上,你在他演講時亂喊一通有個屁用啊~~ 你有本事就去大陸跟胡錦濤拉布條抗議啊~~
或者,你也趕快在台灣當兵,來為台灣獨立拋頭顱灑熱血呀~~
最討厭你們這種只會用嘴巴喊獨立的ABT了.
Thanks Eric! Do you have any upcoming interviews or media appearance? Put it on youtube or your blog if you have a chance...I don't have Taiwanese channels here! Go Yankess!
F.O. Bizzo
to greene
希望你因為嘴巴爛掉而有所警惕別再吃大便了....別無謂的吃進去又吐出來令人噁心...
Re: Previous Anonymous Post
You know a true discussion in politics shouldn't have any personal attacks. Saying "希望你因為嘴巴爛掉而有所警惕別再吃大便了....別無謂的吃進去又吐出來令人噁心." Is not only immature but also pointless. I'm truly concerned about Taiwan's future. Hope you're not going to be one of the future leaders on the island. People like you give bad rep about Taiwanese people.
to 正港....台灣人！？
我看你是“正港笑死人“阿，也是“正港不是人“，你在台灣算是中國人在中國算是台灣人！怎麼樣？在夾縫中兩面不是人好玩不好玩？居然還在這裡要求別人為你拋頭顱撒熱血！？要臉不要？ 有人勇敢站出來在惡勢力面前冒著危險對抗，你卻坐在家裡吃著爆米花吹著冷氣還說著別人的風涼話..... 不要臉也不要丟你祖宗的臉，我最討厭你這種沒腦袋沒膽量的牆頭草了，回你的星球去吧！地球是很危險的。
Re: Previous Anonymous Post
"不要臉也不要丟你祖宗的臉，我最討厭你這種沒腦袋沒膽量的牆頭草了." Again, another immature in pointless post. Let's form our opinions based on facts. Let's discuss base on one's "judgment" not "motive." I'm sure Eric's intention in creating this blog was to raise awareness in Taiwanese democracy, not to make a fool out of ourselves.
to concernedcitizen:
你說得對，我為了我的失言感到抱歉，我不再說那種話了...
to concernedcitizen:
但此規則是否有模糊地帶？比方說樓上那位自稱正港台灣人的仁兄語下的:張銘清在大陸政壇連F咖都算不上 and 最討厭你們這種只會用嘴巴喊獨立的ABT了<-----算不算personal attacks呢？
Hi Eric,
When I first saw the video of you protesting in front of the 張鉻清, I was moved with your courageous action and hope more young generations in Taiwan will learn to step up for themselves and fight for Taiwan's pride and right. Without the country, their futures are in jeopardy. Living in U.S., it is painful to see how KMT gradually eats away the democracy that many others have set forth for Taiwan in the past 20 years. I can never understand how some people in Taiwan want to unify with China, a country which deprives its people's news freedom and poisons its people mentally.
Thank you for setting an excellent example for young people in Taiwan - stand up for what you believe. Go Eric!
Sara from CA
Comment on "Stop cutting the pie and let's make":
I wonder if British could unify with American if any side has the intent?! I strongly suggest those who want to unify with China, please take a boat or swim across the strait. No one will stop you. It really beats me why they want to unify with China and yet still continue stay in Taiwan????
Comment to 正港台灣人:
Can you share what you have done for Taiwan to call yourself 正港台灣人? Wise people don't run before they can walk. We take one step at a time to make sure we can leap when the time is right.
Re: Previous anonymous post
Thank you for pointing that out. You're absolutely correct about the question: "Where do we draw the line?" Frankly, I'm in no position in "setting the line." I have no authority in telling you what you can or cannot say. Freedom of speech is the fundamental principal of democracy. If you want, we can further our discussion on the definition of "Freedom from" and "Freedom to" in the classical liberal way. The point I was trying to make is to remind all of us to form opinions based on facts not form personal attacks. Regarding the sentence "最討厭你們這種只會用嘴巴喊獨立的ABT了" This is an opinion, but I can not tell you if this is based on the fact or not. This will be something Eric can answer whether he serve the military or not. Sorry, if I came across as taking on sides on this discussion and please don't take my criticism personally.
to 正港賣台人；
你字字句句數落著這些站在台灣街頭上的鬥士們沒有具體的行動，敢問仁兄你做了些什麼具體行動來保護台灣的利益？或者提升台灣人群的幸福生活，你批評綠政府八年無為，但你可看見藍政府的草率無能，以及其內部的醜惡互鬥和俯拾即是的無擔當官員們？你可知你口中三言兩語帶過的二二八事件裡面有多少被屠殺的冤魂和多少被踐踏的正義？如果你是以如此輕浮的態度看待這些事情，我鄭重的請你反省！還有，正是因為中國踩過界來，我們才要大力對抗外辱。中國大陸是他們的屬地，我們沒有理由去人家家裡胡鬧！請你先認清楚我們的立場，再考慮清楚自己的發言是否合情合理。
My simple point is that I have had enough of people, like Eric, A-bien and all those 民進黨 politicians, who only "demand" Taiwan independence with their loud mouths. Show me real "actions" and sincerity like join the Taiwanese army. 民進黨 was in power for EIGHT long years and have nothing to show for Taiwan independence, hey but they had plenty of time for corruption. All we hear is 228 and blah blah during election time. Words sound so hollow and empty from people like Eric and 民進黨. They only have loud mouths, but no strategy, no wisdom and no sincerity and most important of all no REAL actions…
Eric’s holding up a banner and shouting on our home turf was not courageous by any standard. I would have saluted him if he did that in Beijing, or Shanghai or anywhere in China.
再說一次.最討厭只會用嘴巴喊台獨的ABT,萬一和大陸開打他們一定是第一個落跑的.
I think what hurts me the most is to see leaders in both parties divide us further apart on this small but beautiful island. I say let's UNITE the people in TAIWAN! Let's pride ourselves as a society free from tyranny and oppression. Let's lead the Four Asian Tigers again like we did back in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s and the 90s. Let's educate ourselves and fight against injustices with our knowledge. People of Taiwan! Wake up! Stop infighting, stop dividing! I don't know about you, but I'm tired of not being able to find a job, not being able to support a family and I'm also tired of politicians pointing fingers and not working together in cleaning up this mess that we had all contributed.
To anonymous,
I think you misunderstood my point here. I have never mentioned the word "unify." My vision was to achieve a more harmonious society by putting differences behind us. Take U.K. and the U.S. for example, both nations fought against Nazi Germany in WWII, both nations are member of NATO and both nations are participants of WTO. Both nations hold seats in United Nations and there had been, and will continuously, active international trades between two countries.Based on the current economic situation, I believe cooperations and further understandings between people in China and Taiwan will improve both societies. (Note: I did not mention "submission" to Chinese government)
"最討厭你們這種只會用嘴巴喊獨立的ABT了" This is an opinion,"
Yes, this is my opinion, not personal attacks. Of course Eric and all those pro Taiwan independence ABT can prove my opinion wrong by stating if they ever served or plan to serve in the Taiwanese army. If Taiwan does declare independence prematurely, will they stay to fight the Chinese army to defend our properties and lives if China attacks Taiwan?
I have a hunch that these ABTs are most likely to stand on the roof top of AIT waiting to be airlifted out of Taiwan if war breaks out between Taiwan and China.
"張銘清在大陸政壇連F咖都算不上"
Yes, this is also a personal opinion and it is a fact too. 張銘清 was only a spokesperson when he had an official position as 中國國台辦發言人. Eric protesting to him was like protesting to former 美國國防部亞太事務發言人, not even the former White House spokesperson!! Even his current role as 大陸海協會副會長 in reality is a position in a "private" organization. Yes, 大陸海協會 is NOT any official Chinese government bureau. I will say it again "張銘清在大陸政壇連F咖都算不上" , because he has no decision making power. 跟胡錦濤拉布條抗議才是真英雄. Like this woman did heckle Hu during his press conference in the White House. I say she had guts, but..Eric..not really. :)
正港台灣人, if China attacks, which it will not, where will you be? How can serving in the military be the only action that represents loyalty to your country? What about all the women in Taiwan? Since they do not serve in the military, does this mean that all women in Taiwan do not love this country, excluding females in the army?
Let's look at the bigger picture, do all Americans serve in the US military? No. Does this mean that they do not represent the US or can speak for it? Not for a second.
To live in a free and democratic society means that Taiwanese citizens can choose to do what they want. Citizens serve the country every day without having to kill for it.
If you think that corruption was brought to Taiwan by the DPP, I strongly suggest you look at the entire history of the KMT. Why did the KMT even get kicked out of China by the CCP? The KMT was even too corrupt for China! How do you think it is that the KMT is one of the richest political parties in the WORLD? Corruption.
"to 正港賣台人；
你字字句句數落著這些站在台灣街頭上的鬥士們沒有具體的行動......"
Oh my... this is the biggest joke I have heard this year.. what exactly have these 台灣街頭上的鬥士 done? hahaha...
"你批評綠政府八年無為，" I simply asked where is the 台獨 that 綠政府 promised us,? 陳水扁 always just talked a good talk。唷..你不會真的相信阿扁他家的"海角七億"還有阿珍、致中和及他媳婦的金銀珠寶、名錶、名車是真的要用來建國的建國基金吧? hahahaha...
"你可知你口中三言兩語帶過的二二八事件裡面有多少被屠殺的冤魂和多少被踐踏的正義？" 二二八事件是一個時代的悲劇 本省人、外省人都有受害者, 如立委洪秀柱的父親也是二二受害者。陳水扁和民進黨老是在選舉時把二二八家屬拉出來站台,選舉完了就把他們丟在一邊。真台獨的民進黨大佬早被陳水扁趕出權力中心,後來民進黨當權者都是打著台獨旗幟搶權力、A錢的假台獨。 醒醒吧。
"正是因為中國踩過界來，我們才要大力對抗外辱"
一堆民進黨的大老、老大甚至現任議員、縣市長 (陳菊、蘇治芬.....)都爭先恐後跑去大陸招商或做生意,這就是明擺著形勢比人強嘛!! 只有傻百姓還會被選舉語言騙了,你希望這些民進黨去大陸時也被視為"敵人" 然後被打、被罵、被嗆嗎?
"Let's look at the bigger picture, do all Americans serve in the US military? No. Does this mean that they do not represent the US or can speak for it? Not for a second."
Eric, you sound just like the Chicken Hawks Republicans who were so eager to start the war with Iraq, but have all kinds of excuse as to why their own kids don't serve in the military. This Irag war to them has become just like another war movie they watch on TV. No wonder you talk this way.
I asked you to clarify what you would do in a war between Taiwan and China, because you can leave Taiwan with your American passport when war breaks out. Taiwanese soldiers would die and the women and children would be in danger too with no way of leaving!! But not ABT like you and all the others. Your calling for Taiwan independence assuming that there won't be a war sounds sooo..."irresponsible" at best.
War should be the last resort so that no one needs to die in an unnecessary war. War should be prevented to the best of our ability. However, what you and the DPP clowns are doing and the actions that are being promoted do not further Taiwan's cause.
I did not say corruption was brought to Taiwan by DPP. I say that DPP is now just as corrupted as KMT after only EIGHT years in power. Instead of riding cancers like A-bian, DPP politicians are circling around him. At least KMT set Taiwan on a path of prosperity during the 70's through the 90's by setting the right policies and strategy. Don't you dare tell me that it's all because of America that Taiwan enjoyed the economic development!
me a republican? not likely. obama 08!
what will you do in case of war? i'm still waiting for your response. you don't need to answer for me, because it's obvious that you know nothing about what i stand for or are even what i am willing to do.
if you think for a second that the DPP is equally as corrupt at the KMT, then i must say that you are so easily brainwashed. you probably thought that Si Ming Deh's whole red shirt fiasco was actually a real people's movement.
i'm not saying that the DPP is perfect by any means. there were definitely things that the DPP could have done better. however, was our sovereignty ever in as much danger as it is now.
i do not for a moment believe that we can have peaceful negotiations with china until each and every missile has been taken down, and we negotiate on a full state-to-state basis. taiwanese people are in no way the aggressors by supporting independence, which we already have anyways.
TO ERIC
你是否瞭解統一的可能性?
&在陳水扁執政的一邊一國?美的態度
在MA的現實中你是否知道軍購是綠小孩的選擇..
總而言軍人肯定挺你
正港：what exactly have these 台灣街頭上的鬥士 done? hahaha...
re:當然，如果對只是隔山觀虎鬥的閣下來說，這些事情只是茶餘飯後的笑話（而且還是今年最好笑的）。
正港：唷..你不會真的相信阿扁他家的"海角七億"真的要用來建國的建國基金吧?
re:老實說，我根本覺得犯罪的人早就該抓起來關了，拖那麼久.... 也趁此機會告訴你，我不是民進黨員。別老斷章取義的把反中國台灣人跟民進黨劃上等號！（我沒受他們操弄，是你反被他們愚弄了）
正港：二二八事件是一個時代的悲劇 本省人、外省人都有受害者, 如立委洪秀柱的父親也是二二受害者。
re:我打從心裡敬重所有228受難者，希望他們的靈魂得到安息...
正港：陳水扁和民進黨老是在選舉時把二二八家屬拉出來站台,選舉完了就把他們丟在一邊
re:我不否認【政治操弄】的存在，但難道站出來的二二八的家屬們也全都只是因不智而被操弄的傀儡嗎？政治活動的群眾動機本就摻雌不齊，但我們在杯葛政治掮客的私欲時，卻也不該完全忽視受難者發自內心的怒吼。這也是馬政府的盲點之一，但像你這樣有血有肉的人，可不該像那些機器一樣用二分法看世界吧！
to greene
統一完全不可能！凡宇宙萬物皆是有陰必有陽，有光必有影，有黑必有白，有左必有右，有獨裁主義則必有自由信念。所以就可能性上來說，幾乎等於零！你死了這條心吧...
軍人是不是會挺Eric 我不知道，但我只知道就算是愛好和平，也不能丟掉手上的武器。兵者，國之大事，死生之地，存亡之道，不可不察也。懂嗎？笨蛋（抱歉,笨蛋是personal attacks）
Hi Eric,
What's your plan when Chen Yun-Lin visit Taiwan next week? If you ve got any ideas, would like to join as well..
Joseph
joseph,
one thing you can do is get on the internet and inform as many people as possible about taiwan's history and current situation. let them know what chen yun lin stands for, which is everything taiwan is not.
when you go out, ask people what the possible benefits could be with having closer relations with the most corrupt, brainwashed country in the world. get more taiwanese people to start really thinking about what's going on in this country.
you're going to see a lot of innocent taiwanese people put in jail this next three days, so make sure any type of protest you hold is non-violent. get it on video too. you don't have to necessarily hit the streets to protest. in taiwan we have several ways to protest. get together with you friends and brainstorm some different ways protest. if you guys come up with anything good, let me know. whatever you do, make sure you stand tall.
Yo Eric,
I'm happy that ur for Obama. U know what state he's from? IL. Chi-town represent! I saw u reply to F.O. Bizzo. I also have one little request! Wear a Cubs jersey! I heard that ur went to Michigan University! C'mon give all ya boyz in the Midwest a shout-out! Maybe you can help break the curse on Cubs!
According to Sun-tzu "If your enemy is superior, evade him. If angry, irritate him. If equally matched, fight, and if not split and reevaluate. "
What's everybody's view regarding the relationship between China & Taiwan? Is China superior? Is Taiwan superior? Or we are equally matched? Are Chinese/Taiwanese angry at each other? What can China/Taiwan do in this situation? What do my friends on this blog think? Both sides are encouraged to participate in this discussion. Thanks!
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McCain doesn't know shit about the economy! Palin is just as stupid as Bush, if not worse. The conservatives here in the States are already in deep shit for going into Iraq, you really think any people here really care about Taiwan? Grow up! I bet more than half of the U.S. population can't even point out where the island is, let alone the politics between China and Taiwan.
The politic between Taiwan and China is pretty darn important too.
If China have gained control over Taiwan, they will also gain control of the Pacific Ocean.
If you notice on the world map, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Philippines create a line that block China from going into the Pacific Ocean.
After that, they will might head straight to America.
Think about it.
"what will you do in case of war? i'm still waiting for your response. you don't need to answer for me,"
Eric-what do you suppose we, 正港台灣人, can do in a war between Taiwan and China? 如果你們這些ABT和民進黨挑起戰爭,算我們倒楣,跑不掉,只有等死啊,等著破產啊. are you happy now?
正港台灣人,
first of all, you need to change your name because nothing that has come out of your mouth represents what a 正港台灣人 would say. please lets stop with the name games. who do you really think you are fooling? i'm pretty sure no one that has ever met you in person would mistake you for a taiwanese person, let alone a 正港台灣人.
and do you have anything else to say besides this imaginary war you think we're going to have? the one where you said you're just going to lay down and die. it's pretty obvious you won't fight for this country either. hey, i could give you my US passport and you can leave this country now.
come on, even a child could think of something else to attack me for, not just will you fight over and over. you sound like a broken record.
China owns about 520 Billion of U.S. treasury securities. (Approx. 20% of total issuance, rank 2nd among list of foreign nations) In addition, China also holds major/minor stakes in numerous domestic companies in the States. You really think that the biggest headache for Americans here is Chinese gaining access to the Pacific Ocean? (I certainly haven't heard of anything in the presidential debate about it) We haven't find Osama yet and the War in Iraq has no end in sight, you really think that McCain is going to "protect" Taiwanese people's liberty? The reason that American go to war is PROFIT. What does Taiwan have to offer that worth American's protection? Americans are more concerned about gay people getting married than about Taiwan. (Judging from the VP debate and interviews with CNN, ABC, FOX and CBS)
To 正港:
如果有人來打你媽媽. would you fight him back? or just cry on the floor and watch everything happens. If you think my assumption (台灣就是台灣人的母親) is not correct, you dont need to answer.
26th California said,
i don't think my shout out can help the cubs man. haha. but i definitely love chi-town. i have a lot of good friends there. but in all honestly, i'm more into basketball. how the bulls looking this year?
"i could give you my US passport and you can leave this country now."
真的哦??太好了!!!米國護照要給偶,就卡盡ㄟ,好像百分之七十五的台灣人都想移民米國哦~~
No one is attacking you, you just sound so...
不食人間煙火 不知民間疾苦
甲叭冇歹記做ㄟ囡仔
Good for you, 算你命好是我們歹命.
Just consider me another 台灣人 who is jealous of 好命的ABT. :(
I am also a Taiwanese/American that lives in Taiwan. I saw you on TV a few weeks ago, just wanna say I am sooooo proud of you! You are great! ^___^
Sana
to 正港台灣人
從你的字裡行間，似乎感到你的論調重點全放在發洩你對美國台灣人獨特國籍屬性的不滿，本也不能怪你。但似乎你不夠了解這個族群童年時在國外所遭受到海外中國人的極端侮辱跟欺壓，這可並不是身在台灣吃著白米飯長大的我們可以體會跟理解的種族憤怒。只要你公開聲稱你是台灣人，就馬上會受到中國人熱情的圍剿跟辱罵！只要你手上拿出中華民國國旗，就立馬見識到中國人的囂張跟跋扈！在台灣土生土長的我們是看不見這種荒謬現象的，我不敢說所有雙重國籍的朋友，在發生戰爭時每個都會義無反顧的留在台灣出一份力，但我卻也因理解而尊重他們對中國人發出怒喊，而且顯然怒吼的這一群人在“美國台灣人“族群中還只是少數，這已經是難能可貴的“合理“台灣民族自覺，我不認為土長台灣人在這時候打壓他們的論調是“合情“的行為，閣下還請高抬貴手吧.......
Wow, there is a lot of commies out there with nothing better to do on weekends then staring at computer screens. No wander the poisonous milk doesn't appear to affect them much...b/c they already stupefied.
Keep up the good work Eric, and lets continue fighting the good fight!!
Loving TW does not necessarily mean that one has to be a Taiwan-born & resident Taiwanese. Anyone in the globe identifying with the cause of Taiwanese nationalism can qualify himself or herself as a friend of Taiwan whether a foreigner or a half Taiwanese, or a foreign-born Taiwanese.
Imaging if China really attacks Taiwan, to counter the non-peaceful means by PRC, isn’t it be better that there are Taiwanese or friends of Taiwan abroad to blow-up Chinese embassies everywhere? Think globally, why should the war be fought in Taiwan soil only? So the more foreign-born and raised Taiwanese, the better!
who says that you have to bron in Taiwan to love and care for Taiwan!
馬先生可是香港出生的,連戰可是大陸出生的,哪也叫他們滾回去不要管台灣的事!!
不准別人做美國人阿公(扁). 自己卻是是美國人爸爸(馬). 矛盾.
"老蔣你怎麼可以丟下我們而走了..." 國民黨和外省人, 你們的老蔣有愛台灣嗎? 有的話那為什麼還不土葬在台灣呢? 你們的老蔣拉你們過來台灣還不是因為被打敗沒面子!! 一心的一直要回大陸去!! 外省人你們在老蔣的心裡算哪根蔥阿!! 他根本沒把你們放在眼裡!! 他只想回去大陸做大官,台灣那麼小算什麼阿!! 他根本看不起台灣著個小島!!
悲哀阿!! 外省人,你們認同的台灣國旗,被你們選出來的馬先生,逼迫不能在台灣土地上飄揚!!
在國外是因為被大陸打壓.今天是在自己的國家而不能揮舞自己的國旗..... 真是悲哀!!
荒唐!! 他只不過是大陸的一個小到不行的小官員你的有必要拍人家的馬屁嗎?? 喔!忘了你們選出來的台灣總統姓馬,專門拍人家馬屁! 一天到晚只會剪綵,還有去人家喪事流眼淚的馬先生. 傀儡總統.
那些警察的上司真的是中國人民共和國!! 台灣又回到一個沒人權的國家.
台灣人真的要團結!!我們還不夠團結!!我們要團結才有力量!!才可以變成一個被全世界認同的國家"台灣"!!而不是R.O.C.
who loves Taiwan, loves Taiwan.
who hates those who loves Taiwan, can go back to your china, and stay there!!
外獨會的成員大部份是外省人,不過他們流的是屠殺台灣本省籍中國共產黨員的屠夫的後代.愛台灣嗎?想建國嗎?告訴這些人渣:台灣人已經建立國家了,它的名字叫中華人民共和國且是由台灣本省籍中國共產黨員和那些內地黨員共同建立的,不容你們這些外獨屠夫人渣變造這歷史.我們台灣本省人要在以已故謝雪紅同志精神領導之下,英勇戰勝這些二二八屠夫的後代,邁向一個光榮前程
http://voiceoftaiwanpeople.blogspot.com
I guess envoy Chen has arrived today, and he is not even a government official. Look at the reception Taiwan is displaying. They forbid everything representing Taiwan (ROC). Where are your prides, ROC? Do you not understand the freedom of speech; the rights to demonstrate your belief are so precious. To quote a foreign friend of mine, "Taiwan is cow downing to China. It is sad to see Taiwan this way." What does it take to wake people up? Does it really take a violent revolution to wake everyone up? Has the government really lost its sanity? I tell my child, be proud of your ancestry, you are both Taiwanese and American. Be proud that because of the American Revolution, you have the liberty to think, speak, and the right to choose your religion. Taiwan was free; however, it does not seem to be the case here today. Ultimately, I'd like to see referendum to be a common practice here in Taiwan. Taiwan’s destiny should be determined by its people, not its leader.
樓上9:03pm那位仁兄:
你是頭殼壞去吧！？你說:[台灣人已經建立中華人民共和國且是由台灣本省籍中國共產黨員和那些內地黨員共同建立的]？你是妄想症末期復發患者?還是想趁亂吃台灣人豆腐的痴漢阿？滾出去！！你這投機取巧的小人...盡用這般下三濫反串手法想幹麻？別在這裡污辱台灣人的智慧啦！看了就噁心....
給那位12:25AM那位ANOMYMOUS:你應該是台灣史白癡！謝雪紅是誰都不知道，連她領導的中國共產黨台灣省工作委員會以及那些台灣民主自治同盟的老台灣本省人為中華人民共和國的建立貢獻事蹟都不知道，你還真對不起台灣人http://voiceoftaiwanpeople.bravehost.com
給正港台灣人
你少回應了下面這件事
敢問仁兄你做了些什麼具體行動來保護台灣的利益？
我很想聽聽看
看戲的路人
2正港台灣人
你好像對ABT有深仇大恨耶
你馬子被ABT搶走喔
Keep up the good fight, Eric! I love your website :) I too, am an ABT, and very passionate about keeping Taiwan free and independent!
to 12:56
謝雪紅喔！我知道阿！ 我家巷口那個包菁仔檳榔的叫謝雪紅阿（花名米雪兒），他是不是什麼黨什麼主席什麼委員會什麼貢獻我是不知道啦？我只知道他的檳榔難吃死了，是真的難吃才說得啦！拍謝內！不知道說實話有對不起台灣人這麼嚴重啦！哈哈
to 12:29
哈！你的問題應該問馬.....先生，小弟非常好奇！
Yo Eric,
Yeah Bulls jersey would work...They are not that good this season. Overtime in the preseason game with Bucks...How about Bears jersey? That'll work too. You like football?
By the way to that Anonymous who called Eric gay...
Only gay people can tell who's gay or not. It's called a gay-dar.(Gay + Radar)
"2正港台灣人你好像對ABT有深仇大恨耶你馬子被ABT搶走喔"
"但似乎你不夠了解這個族群童年時在國外所遭受到海外中國人的極端侮辱跟欺壓，這可並不是身在台灣吃著白米飯長大的我們可以體會跟理解的種族憤怒。只要你公開聲稱你是台灣人，就馬上會受到中國人熱情的圍剿跟辱罵！"
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啥米..深仇大恨是沒有, 不過現在你這一提,我倒是想起十幾年前在美國唸書時碰到的那些ABT還真有些"賭爛". 他們ABT可是比當地的白人還歧視我們台灣人,有幾個我們明明知道會講台語或國語的ABT聽到我們這些老留學生講台語或蹩腳英文,還會給我們白眼... 嘿.結果現在竟然有ABT跑回台灣教訓我. 怪怪...
在美國黃種人少的地方,台灣老留學生反而跟大陸留學生較接近,那些ABT根本好像不想幫我們台灣老留學生.
在美國我可是從沒看過大陸人欺負圍剿跟辱罵ABT哦.. 他們ABT英文那麼溜,又是美國公民,誰敢啊.
大概是在美國: 美國白人歧視ABT, ABT又歧視台灣老留學生,讓我現在潛意識理就很討厭ABT在台灣耀武揚威的.
I am a Taiwanese, born and raised in Taiwan. My parents, their parents and even their parents were born in Taiwan. So technically my ancestors were Taiwanese. I am very proud of being Taiwanese and I am not afraid of telling those barbaric chinese I met in North America or Europe that I am TAIWANESE. They certainly will do everything they can to make it hell for any Taiwanese but I fight back. No one is ever allowed to call me chinese. It's same thing as the f word to me. What an insult. Anyway, keep up the good work. Very proud of you.
To: 正港台灣人你好像對ABT有深仇大恨耶
I've studied in many places outside of Taiwan. So I know what you are talking about. When it comes to ABT, the most they do is just ignoring you but those chinese barbarians are the ones that will actually come and pick on you. When I meet someone that I don't like, I just ignore the person and I don't think anything is wrong with that. You can't expect everybody to be your best friend. But if they're trying to pick a fight then bring it on. I will fight and I don't lose. So chinese people stay away from Taiwan.
大概是在美國: 美國白人歧視ABT, ABT又歧視台灣老留學生,讓我現在潛意識理就很討厭ABT在台灣耀武揚威的.
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說句公道話，我同情你的個人立場。經你這樣一說明，亦可以理解你的仇視態度。不過，現在我們所面對的是國家與國家間嚴肅的主權廢存問題。失之毫釐；則差之千里。我個人並非堅持替ABT開脫什麼(尤其那只是個案恩怨），但此間言論涉及之思想調性應是著眼於大義，而非私人好惡恩怨！台灣的主權應是明確的存在，而非模糊的夾處於強權之間。台灣人中的每一種族群在遭遇強權挑戰時，也都應放棄門戶偏見而共同抵抗外侮！即便我家隔壁三伯打過我家的狗，但我也不能就說他的反中國立場是錯誤的.....這才是台灣民族自覺的表現。
"亦可以理解你的仇視態度.........台灣人中的每一種族群在遭遇強權挑戰時，也都應放棄門戶偏見而共同抵抗外侮！"
你嘛卡拜脫哎 誰"仇視"誰了啊 你想太多了吧
不過ABT的確是該檢討他們在美國面對自己同胞的態度,不要回台灣才覺得自己是台灣人,在美國反而對同胞"不屑一顧".
你要自己在美國碰到ABT才知道他們有多"顧人怨"啦.
"你要自己在美國碰到ABT才知道他們有多"顧人怨"啦."
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I met quite a few and I had no problem with them. And I also met quite a few chinese and had problem with most of them.
This is not a place to fight with ABT. Get your priority straight. We are talking about problems between Taiwan and china.
正港台灣人想起十幾年前在美國唸書時...orz??? 但他又在Eric的blog叫別人(buddahwind)幫他中翻英,這太超白爛的吧?所以他可能就是..
1.在美國學店渾個學位,不然就是
2.在眠夢到美國唸書
哭腰,無法度自我翻譯的英文能力,是唸書是唸假的啊!可笑!
"哭腰,無法度自我翻譯的英文能力,是唸書是唸假的啊!可笑!"
哈哈哈哈...偶ㄧㄟ"結的"好笑..
就說過偶們是"老"留學生嘛 ABT聽偶們的蹩腳英文還給我們白眼
偶理工很ㄅㄧㄤˋ
偶"台灣狗語"ㄧㄟ比你ㄅㄧㄤˋ哦
正港台灣人你在講英文的國家裡用你的爛英文和別人溝通,誰有那個美國時間等你在那雞雞歪歪的,不用說abt,甚而黑人,白人都會給你白眼看待 再來,不用說美國,給在台灣也一樣,不用怨別人,沒人有那個時間等你 此外,你老留學生少在那裝台灣注音國語,臭老當可愛...令人作嘔,吐!
"臭老當可愛...令人作嘔,吐!"
ㄒㄧㄟˋㄒㄧㄟˋ你說偶口愛啦 偶要趕快企照鏡子了
少年人不要動不動就火氣這麼大
不要只會在台灣叫囂 打台灣警察
有本事 就和Eric去大陸殺共匪啊..
這麼勇敢要台獨 再四十天直航就截彎取直
所以你和Eric及這些只捧老美LP的少年
趕快組個殺共匪團 吃完早餐飛去殺共匪 晚上可能還能趕回來吃宵業
哈!您啊媽里,反攻大陸殺共匪是您支那人kmt教的.有LP,請騎您的馬陰溝去支那先做試範,別象講借屍kmt龜啊兒,只會說不會做,現在只會在台灣哭爸,您哦!去講的屍體前自殺吧!
您的膽小才對不起您的支那國. 去大陸殺共匪...是您支那人kmt開的玩笑!看還是先殺光你們人在台心在支那的支那犬再說唷.
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